Ga 095 - Ranchu, Top View - Tosai |
Ga 095 - Ranchu, Top View - Tosai |
GA Secretary |
Sun, 09 Oct 2005 2:27 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Hi All,
8cm tosai for comments pls. thanks.... proof of ownership |
Frankie |
Sun, 09 Oct 2005 2:44 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Hi,
This fish looks good from the pictures. But it would invite more fair comments if you can post bigger pictures of this fish. |
GA Secretary |
Sun, 09 Oct 2005 9:46 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
sorry... doing this for the first time.
Will add bigger pic one at a time. thanks in advance. is the size ok now? |
Frankie |
Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:10 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
This ranchu looks very ,very good.
A bigger photo please for better comments. |
Frankie |
Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:10 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Yes, looks good but body is short. Is it a Kashino?
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Mon, 10 Oct 2005 1:07 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
thank you.
No, it's not a Kashino. It's from Ishikawa san. Would like to hear more comments/advise pls. |
Frankie |
Mon, 10 Oct 2005 1:07 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Nice head, body,back,peduncle and scales.I think the body lenght is OK.Tails a little small and a little soft.
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olddog |
Mon, 10 Oct 2005 1:07 pm
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Moderator Member No.: 29 Group: Honorary Member Posts: 88 Topics Started: 6 Joined: 26-Nov-03 Last seen online: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 8:08 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 3:00 pm Green Water: Yes Country: UK |
The first plus points to hit me on this fish are the head size and shape. The evenness of the scales is also impressive. I love the way they run parallel to each other from head to tail. Also they are nice and shiny and the colour is uniform and deep.
The minus points are the slightly slimmer peduncle. However that could just look slimmer due to the weight of that superb head. I can’t say too much about the tail as it’s hard for me to see the small photo. It would have been lovely to see that uniform colouration spread into the tail but you cant have it always. As for the lineage. I would take a stab at a Kashino x Mita cross. It certainly has the scales and body shape of a Kashino. The head influenced by Mito blood perhaps. All this is just a stab in the dark, the conclusion it’s a dam good fish with good blood and potential. Forrest |
Frankie |
Mon, 10 Oct 2005 5:03 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Excellent catch! Good overall balance and proportion. Does it swim as well as it looks?
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Mon, 10 Oct 2005 9:28 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Thanks for all your valuable comments.
Will try to answer/respond all at one go... to frankie : "Tails a little small and a little soft." -- any hint how I can improve that? to forrest : "The minus points are the slightly slimmer peduncle." -- I tot I picked one with a strong peduncle... will bring it to a larger pond help? currently in 2'x3' tub, thinking of bring it together with the rest in a 4'x6'. "I would take a stab at a Kashino x Mita cross." -- It's a true blue Ishikawa, still learning so... can enlighten the characteristics difference and that of Kashino, mita? thks. to frankie : "Does it swim as well as it looks?" -- yes.. swims with grandeur though quick at times as it's still a young fish. |
olddog |
Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:51 pm
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Moderator Member No.: 29 Group: Honorary Member Posts: 88 Topics Started: 6 Joined: 26-Nov-03 Last seen online: Fri, 03 Jul 2015 8:08 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 3:00 pm Green Water: Yes Country: UK |
http://www.ranchuu.com/frame2.html
Aah, the line ID is interesting. I had a good look at some other examples of that lineage at the above link. It seams to me like a very positive attribute of this line is the uniformity of their scale pattern. If the scales were a little smaller the appearance would almost be snake skin. I would say this would be a good prospect if one needed to improve the scales of your working line. How many times have you had a perfect shaped fish with good tail spoilt by scale disorganization or wandering lines. What aspect influenced your eye to go for this line? Forrest. |
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Tue, 11 Oct 2005 9:25 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Hi Forrest,
though been keeping ranchu for several years now but still very much a beginer. Chanced upon this line when introduced to me by this LFS I frequent. Did not know Ishikawa line or any bloodline characteristics at that time. Somehow the body shape facinates me ... long rectangular head, long body, strong peduncle, smooth flowing scales pattern... but basically looking for a strong body structure. My idea of a perfect ranchu somehow fits very nicely with this line. If given a choice, now it's Ishikawa or nothing, pond space too precious you know... Seen some examples in this year's spawning that has a narrow head (very different from what I have), can be seen in some of the pictures in Ishikawa san's web site. Don't understand why... Looking for some hints to develop the ranchu further... any idea? Hope I won't spoil it before it's too late . thanks and best regards.. |
ranchu8 |
Tue, 11 Oct 2005 11:46 pm
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Gold Member No.: 998 Group: Member Posts: 796 Topics Started: 26 Joined: 9-Mar-05 Last seen online: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:53 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm Green Water: Yes Country: Singapore |
hi, ok to say whether the Ishikawa Ranchu was bought from Covenant?
ranchu8 |
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Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:39 am
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Hi Ranchu8,
I really don't know if there will be any implications from my answers ... socially acceptable or not but definitely ok for me to disclose... Yes, I was lucky to have a few Ishikawa ranchus from Simon road but not this one. Hope this answer is satisfactory. regards.... Hi All, some pointers to maintain/improve this ranchu pls... pls... thanks... |
ranchu8 |
Thu, 13 Oct 2005 2:05 pm
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Gold Member No.: 998 Group: Member Posts: 796 Topics Started: 26 Joined: 9-Mar-05 Last seen online: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:53 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:00 pm Green Water: Yes Country: Singapore |
Thanks for the info certainly no implication; imo, looks a bit different from the "non Covenant" type ;)
ranchu8 |
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