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Posted by: yamato38gunkei Thu, 01 Jul 2004 3:09 pm

Please feel free to comment this Ranchu.

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Regards,


Geert Coppens

Posted by: Frankie Thu, 01 Jul 2004 4:04 pm

This is a very impressive Ranchu...

1. Tail - Structure is strong, and is the 4-pivoted type. I do find the osara a little bit messy and I wish the right tail is fully coloured.

2. Body - The backbone is wide and strong with a thick peduncle. I bet this ranchu can whack havoc in the tub! Those scales are very beautiful, and they are shiny.

3. Head - The Wen and Cheeks are gorgeous! Do you feed your ranchu tofu? unsure.gif

The only major flaw is this ranchu swim in a circle, counter-clockwise, because it lacks a left pectoral fin! mad2.gif

Happy birthday on 4 of July, Geert! kissme.gif

Posted by: yamato38gunkei Thu, 01 Jul 2004 5:19 pm

QUOTE(Frankie @ Thu 01 Jul 2004 09:04 AM)
This is a very impressive Ranchu... 
 
1.  Tail - Structure is strong, and is the 4-pivoted type.  I do find the osara a little bit messy and I wish the right tail is fully coloured. 
 
2.  Body - The backbone is wide and strong with a thick peduncle.  I bet this ranchu can whack havoc in the tub!  Those scales are very beautiful, and they are shiny. 
 
3. Head - The Wen and Cheeks are gorgeous!  Do you feed your ranchu tofu?  unsure.gif 
 
The only major flaw is this ranchu swim in a circle, counter-clockwise, because it lacks a left pectoral fin!  mad2.gif 
 
Happy birthday on 4 of July, Geert!  kissme.gif

Of course, this Ranchu has two pectoral fins (grin). But the left one is white and is not visible on the photo. I do wish it was red !

Thank you very much for the congratulations !!!!!!!

Regards,


Geert Coppens

Posted by: Frankie Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:46 pm

QUOTE(Frankie @ Thu 01 Jul 2004 04:04 PM)

Happy birthday on 4 of July, Geert!

Very nice ranchu. Japanese do not judge the colour pattern on their ranchu right???? It is OK even if one pectoral fin is white. Probably if you take the picture on a blue tub, it will show itself better.

How nice to celeberate your birthday with the Americans.

Happy Birthday and thanks for sharing your ranchu experiences.

Posted by: Frankie Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:46 pm

Geert, if you are not offended, is this a cross breed with a Jinchukai line ?

Posted by: Frankie Fri, 02 Jul 2004 9:09 am

Head growth is excellent! Second is the thick, powerful back that stretches to the tail.
Not sure if its the picture defect? But the scale just look a little awkward!
Overall, will be perfect if the oza to be thicker and stronger.

Happy 43 Geert!!!

Posted by: Frankie Fri, 02 Jul 2004 9:09 am

Powerful piece u have there Geert! good_very.gif

Posted by: yamato38gunkei Fri, 02 Jul 2004 9:09 am

QUOTE(Frankie @ Thu 01 Jul 2004 04:45 PM)
Geert, if you are not offended, is this a cross breed with a Jinchukai line ?

I do not use Jinchu Kai Ranchu.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Posted by: Frankie Fri, 02 Jul 2004 3:40 pm

QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Fri 02 Jul 2004 09:08 AM)
I do not use Jinchu Kai Ranchu.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Thanks Geert. I have not seen this line before but got some impression of the jinchukai line. Just asking only, hope you don't mind.

Can I know which are the parent line you used for this fish ?

Posted by: namaste Sat, 03 Jul 2004 8:09 pm

hello Geert,

I think this is a high quality fish. But do you think this tail type the best?

Happy B.Day!

Namaste

Posted by: yamato38gunkei Mon, 05 Jul 2004 6:54 pm

QUOTE(Frankie @ Fri 02 Jul 2004 02:08 AM)
Overall, will be perfect if the oza to be thicker and stronger.

What do you mean with Oza should be thicker and stronger ? Oza are the scales under the tail. These are not visible on this photo ! Oza of this Ranchu is very big. I think there is a little misunderstanding concerning the name "Oza".

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Posted by: yamato38gunkei Mon, 05 Jul 2004 6:54 pm

QUOTE(Frankie @ Fri 02 Jul 2004 08:39 AM)
Can I know which are the parent line you used for this fish ?

This is a bloodline that I have been developing in Belgium for 5 generations. But there is a lot of Kashino Ranchu and Kawai Ranchu in it.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Posted by: yamato38gunkei Mon, 05 Jul 2004 6:54 pm

QUOTE(namaste @ Sat 03 Jul 2004 01:08 PM)
But do you think this tail type the best?

I do not very well understand your question.
But, I think that the shape of this tail is very good. The tail should be a little more flexible, but this will be corrected as it now swims in a big pond. A big pond and high water temperatures make the tail bones more flexible.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Posted by: namaste Fri, 09 Jul 2004 9:20 pm

Hello Geert,

Thanks for your reply.

So sorry to confuse you. What I meant is the oyabone. I attached a picture to show you. Is this tail no good, ok or .....?

Sorry again if the picture is unclear.

Thanks
Namaste

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Posted by: yamato38gunkei Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:17 pm

QUOTE(namaste @ Fri 09 Jul 2004 02:19 PM)
Hello Geert,

Thanks for your reply.

So sorry to confuse you. What I meant is the oyabone. I attached a picture to show you. Is this tail no good, ok or .....?

Sorry again if the picture is unclear.

Thanks
Namaste

http://www.rafflesgold.com/forums/uploads/ga/ga021-2.jpg

I am sorry, but the photo is too unsharp to comment.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Posted by: Frankie Sun, 11 Jul 2004 4:35 pm

QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Mon 05 Jul 2004 06:53 PM)
A big pond and high water temperatures make the tail bones more flexible.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Hi Geert, could the too flexible tail bones of a ranchu be corrected by keeping it in limited swim space and cooler water?

Posted by: yamato38gunkei Sun, 11 Jul 2004 7:16 pm

QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun 11 Jul 2004 09:34 AM)
Hi Geert, could the too flexible tail bones of a ranchu be corrected by keeping it in limited swim space and cooler water?

Yes, on condition that the caudal peduncle and oza are strong enough... and that the Ranchu is of acceptable quality and good bloodline.

Regards,

Geert Coppens

Posted by: chrisamos Tue, 20 Jul 2004 9:41 am

can u post a side view of this fish, just wonder that japanese ranchu breed outside japan can get pure breed or not. cos thailand cannot.

chris

Posted by: Frankie Tue, 20 Jul 2004 12:30 pm

QUOTE(chrisamos @ Tue 20 Jul 2004 09:40 am)
can u post a side view of this fish, just wonder that japanese ranchu breed outside japan can get pure breed or not. cos thailand cannot.

chris
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Errr...how can the side view of the fish got anything to do with whether it is japanese pure breed or not ????

Posted by: chrisamos Tue, 20 Jul 2004 1:38 pm

B'COS top view fish the side view will like a rectangle shape, if the breed not pure it ill like thai fish the stomach will drop.
chris

Posted by: Frankie Tue, 20 Jul 2004 6:20 pm

QUOTE(chrisamos @ Tue 20 Jul 2004 01:38 pm)
B'COS top view fish the side view will like a rectangle shape, if the breed not pure it ill like thai fish the stomach will drop.
chris
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I disagree. Always thought that only the top view of ranchu should looks like a rectangle shape, for the sideview, basically it is not important unless there is a tie for the top position then the sideview will be used to determine which should be champion.

What is your opinion of this fish ? It doesn't have a rectangular but a egg-shaped sideview....

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Posted by: Frankie Wed, 21 Jul 2004 7:37 am

QUOTE(chrisamos @ Tue 20 Jul 2004 01:38 pm)
B'COS top view fish the side view will like a rectangle shape, if the breed not pure it ill like thai fish the stomach will drop.
chris
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Whoever taught you that, you have better stop listening to him.
What has the side view of a TV ranchu to do with whether it is PURE BREED or not? mad.gif

Are you talking about LuoHan again?

Posted by: Frankie Fri, 30 Jul 2004 7:37 am

chris,
pls take the extra effort to find out who is Mr. Geert Coppens....

Try this to start off: http://search.yahoo.co.jp/bin/query?p=geert+coppens&hc=0&hs=0

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