Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Quick Pick

Posting Guidelines 2 Pages V  1 2 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Ga 002 - Ranchu
GA Secretary
post Thu, 06 May 2004 7:36 pm
Post #1


Mask ID to Fish Owner
Group Icon


Member No.: 34
Group: Staff
Posts: 20
Topics Started: 0
Joined: 29-Nov-03
Last seen online:
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



Hello everybody,
I bought this ranchu three weeks ago.Its 3 inches long.
Hope to learn from your comments.
thanks

IPB Image

IPB Image

IPB Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yamato38gunkei
post Fri, 07 May 2004 3:11 pm
Post #2


Moderator
Group Icon

User Gallery
Member No.: 123
Group: Honorary Member
Posts: 718
Topics Started: 31
Joined: 8-Mar-04
Last seen online:
Thu, 03 Sep 2015 5:23 am
User's local time:
Thu, 25 Apr 2024 10:21 pm
Green Water: No
Country: Belgium



Hello,

This Ranchu looks good. From the top and from the side. I only think it needs a lot of food so that the belly becomes deeper when seen from the side. A nice big tail ! I hope to see a better top view photo to give more detailed comments. Do you know the origin of this Ranchu ?

Regards,

Geert Coppens
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Fri, 07 May 2004 10:18 am
Post #3


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



I'm a newbie to topview ranchu, and IMO I don't think this is a topview ranchu. The scalings indicate it is chinese and is therefore a sideview ranchu. Nevertheless, the nice big tails is 4-pivoted which is one of the most sought-after kind. The last pic shows the shindachi is more than 45 degrees, which is good especially when the Ozuke connects at an acute angle, but the tails is too tall. If you observe, this ranchu may dive downwards when it tries to swim away quickly. The osa is quite messy (for a topview) but that's not relevant for a sideview. As a sideview ranchu, the body shape is not good as it is too long. At this young age, there's room for the wen and cheeks to develop, and if you feed and take good care of this chinese, it may, IMHO, turns out nicely as a sideview ranchu. The trick may be to flatten the horizontally suspended tails somewhat by keeping it in great depth and higher current tank, and pumping it to give it a full body.

... my 2 cents worth.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Fri, 07 May 2004 10:18 am
Post #4


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



Few comments...
1) The topview shot is not optimal for assessment. It should be a direct-overhead shot.
2) For a 7.5 cm ranchu, it should look less well developed. Leads me to think this ranchu may be growth restricted(stunted).
3) Colour is too strong, head development too much for this size
4) Caudal peduncle not strong/thick enough
5) Reasonable tail structure, topline, markings
Cheers!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Fri, 07 May 2004 10:18 am
Post #5


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



when i look at the pics of the ranchu, the first thing that cross my mind is.... the tail is too long. too wide and too long for that size of body.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Fri, 07 May 2004 12:06 pm
Post #6


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



nice tail, body abit short, headgrowth reasonable.. back abit thin, overall not bad for a thai topview ranchu..

do post a clear direct topview and sideview shot of the fish, thanks smile.gif
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Sat, 08 May 2004 6:43 am
Post #7


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



Here are another two topview pic for your comments.

Thanks.

IPB Image

IPB Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Sat, 08 May 2004 8:47 pm
Post #8


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



Thank you for the new photos. Now the fish actually looks too short. But I still love that tails.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yamato38gunkei
post Sun, 09 May 2004 3:35 am
Post #9


Moderator
Group Icon

User Gallery
Member No.: 123
Group: Honorary Member
Posts: 718
Topics Started: 31
Joined: 8-Mar-04
Last seen online:
Thu, 03 Sep 2015 5:23 am
User's local time:
Thu, 25 Apr 2024 10:21 pm
Green Water: No
Country: Belgium



Thank you very much for the extra photos. Yes, it is true that when seeing these photos, the body is too short. It is a pitty, because the tail, head and scales are beautiful. The caudal peduncle should also be much stronger.

Regards,

Geert Coppens
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Sun, 09 May 2004 3:15 pm
Post #10


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



Geert, I am not so sure about the tail. Isn't there a kink in the hard rays? Would this constitue a major flaw?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Sun, 09 May 2004 5:26 pm
Post #11


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun 09 May 2004 03:14 PM)
Geert, I am not so sure about the tail. Isn't there a kink in the hard rays? Would this constitue a major flaw?

Hello Frankie biggrin.gif

If you study the very first pic you'll notice the "kink" is not obvious. The "kink" is actually the tail folding down and flipped back as the fish swim forward.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Mon, 10 May 2004 8:00 am
Post #12


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



http://www.japanranchu.com has basic info on how to assess a ranchu...may be useful as reference for the hobbyist.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Mon, 10 May 2004 10:34 am
Post #13


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



QUOTE(Frankie @ Mon 10 May 2004 08:00 AM)
http://www.japanranchu.com has basic info on how to assess a ranchu...may be useful as reference for the hobbyist.

I went through the article and find it sounds familiar. I checked and sure enough it is re-worded from an original article published by Geert Coppens, and with many details omitted. You're definitely better off to read the real thing which can be found on Geert's web site.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Frankie
post Wed, 16 Jun 2004 1:28 pm
Post #14


Mask ID to ALL Critics
Group Icon


Member No.: 168
Group: Staff
Posts: 8
Topics Started: 1
Joined: 7-Apr-04
Last seen online:
Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



It's been six week since the fish was posted.

Six weeks is a relatively long period for a developing ranchu.

How about an update?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
GA Secretary
post Thu, 17 Jun 2004 6:19 pm
Post #15


Mask ID to Fish Owner
Group Icon


Member No.: 34
Group: Staff
Posts: 20
Topics Started: 0
Joined: 29-Nov-03
Last seen online:
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am
User's local time:
Fri, 26 Apr 2024 4:21 am
From: RafflesGold GA
Green Water: Not Telling
Country: Singapore



Ok, here is the updated pics.

But this time she brought along her boyfriend. laugh.gif

IPB Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posting Guidelines 2 Pages V  1 2 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 26-Apr-24 4:21 am
Logo
RSS

Site Map
RafflesGold - Web Space for Goldfish Lovers
Copyrighted © 2003-2006 RafflesGold.com. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
Terms of Service and Privacy Policy
RafflesGold.com is a non-profit independent hobbyist supported forum based in Singapore
Donate to keep us operational
Link to Us
Contact Us