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post Sat, 04 Dec 2004 8:05 pm
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This is my Nisai Ranchu. Please let me know what you think.

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post Sun, 05 Dec 2004 7:51 am
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could have been a better fish
pity it wasn't brought up well
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post Sun, 05 Dec 2004 7:51 am
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Superb! clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif
nice head, tail is good, body length a bit short but ok.
can you share how do you groom this ranchu? so that we can learn.
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post Sun, 05 Dec 2004 9:09 am
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 12:51 am)
could have been a better fish
pity it wasn't brought up well
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Very interesting ! Please let me know what you think went wrong. How would you have developed this Ranchu ?
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post Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:58 am
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Very nice Nisai. Should be a wonderful Oya.
I love the texture, extremely outstanding!
Just curious, have the fish been stressed?
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post Sun, 05 Dec 2004 1:25 pm
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QUOTE(Secretary @ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 9:09 am)
Very interesting !  Please let me know what you think went wrong.  How would you have developed this Ranchu ?
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looks clumsy, rather than a sleek powerful swimmer

how did you raise this fish? how long has this fish been with you?
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post Sun, 05 Dec 2004 5:58 pm
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 6:25 am)
looks clumsy, rather than a sleek powerful swimmer

how did you raise this fish? how long has this fish been with you?
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OK, you told me something is not good. I hope to learn from you why. I asked you a question to learn. Please answer my question and I will answer yours too.
To say it looks clumsy is easy, but please tell me why. Do other bros have the same opinion ?
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 4:58 am)
Very nice Nisai. Should be a wonderful Oya.
I love the texture, extremely outstanding!
Just curious, have the fish been stressed?
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Why do you ask : "has the fish been stressed ?"
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QUOTE(Secretary @ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 5:58 pm)
To say it looks clumsy is easy, but please tell me why.  Do other bros have the same opinion ?
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Your ranchu doesn't strike me as clumsy. It may not look as slender and graceful as other ranchus that I've seen here in the forum, especially with the rounded bulging tummy, but it's cute (and I mean it as a complement). The white head fascinates me. Somehow it resembles soft furry fur!

I'm curious how it looks from the side. Judging from the pic, it appears to have a relatively short and drastically curved back like a sideview ranchu? Everything else ( the neat and fine scales, the nice big tails) screams Japanese though, which confuse the hell out of me.
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post Tue, 07 Dec 2004 8:15 pm
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To me, "cute" is not a compliment to a topview ranchu. To my untrained eyes, the ranchu looks out of shape.

tell us what's your keeping method. only then perhaps some experienced keepers will comment.
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post Wed, 08 Dec 2004 9:35 am
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In 20 odds days, it's going to be an Oya. Tough to say it's a good fish. Sold to you as japan bloodline ? Ya, got a little of japan look, sold as Hamamatsu or ishikawa ranchu ? but keeping method seems poor. Owner would like to share how he has been keeping this for the past 20 odd mths.

Overall, average. Looks lumpy from the photo. If possible, re-take a better shot, at least when the fish is not swimming.
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I am a little disappointed that so few people commented this Ranchu ; and in fact all Ranchu in the Goldfish Academy.

I think this is a good opportunity to train your eye and it may open the eyes of the owners. More than 500 members and only a few comments. Probably it will never change, but I think that the fact that so many members "hide" is not good for the group. In the end it will discourage the "active" ones.

I was happy to see positive and negative comments. I only wish that those who gave negative comments were brave enough to say why etc. It is easy to critisise, but very difficult to give advice. It can only open the eyes of the breeder or owner. Everybody thinks that his or her fish are the best.

OK, my story. This Ranchu was bred by Mr. Kato from Okayama. I imported this Ranchu as a Tosai about one year ago. It is a male. Next year, I will use this Ranchu to breed. I think it is a very good Ranchu. OK, I wish the body was a little longer, but I do not think that the tummy is too thick.

I still hope to see more comments. Positive or negative !

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I should mention Geert had initially chosen to post annoymously and revealing his identity only just now. I think the strategy works well in getting unbiased comments. tongue.gif

On the issue of getting little comments on top view ranchus, my feeling is there're very few true blue tvr keepers here. Sure, many members own tvr but are keeping them for their looks only. How it swims is of very little importance, much like some fashion magazine models; look nice on paper but walks creepled.

So, many have learnt how to select a tvr for the right look but given a good ranchu that doesn't fit in that guideline is marked as undersirable.

We have done a private poll on whether appreciating a tvr for the looks only is okay. If i recall correctly, majority voted yes much to everyone surprise.

So geert, don't be dishearten by the lack luster and wrong comments. It won't be easy to make many of us understand the true joy of keeping tvr because the grace & joy of watching the little creature swim can only be appreciated by observing it in front of you, live. Very few has this oppurtunity.

But i think the academy still serves it purpose as a starting point for newbies to understand the basics of tvr. For one thing, i think many learnt how to distinguish a thai from a jap and not so valnerable to LFS's wild claims, among other insights.

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post Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:08 pm
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IMHO .... Overall a very nice fish. Nice head growth and thick backbone. But would prefer that the tummy is extended more towards the back to close up the gap between the body and the tail.

Tail wise is reasonable but would prefer it to be bigger and less droupy.

Also agree that it might not be able to swim very gracefully.
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:58 am)
Very nice Nisai. Should be a wonderful Oya.
I love the texture, extremely outstanding!
Just curious, have the fish been stressed?
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I see some stress mark (or maybe I'm wrong)on the tip of tail pivot. blush.gif
Please enlighten!
Thanks!

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