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KokiBali
post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:53 am
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Just bought this ranchu last Saturday. About 7 cm length. Tail and back curve are not so good, but this type is still rare. For your viewing pleasure and comment.

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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 11:56 am
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so u visited the show ... nice fish there right ?
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 2:05 pm
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A rarity you have there good.gif

From what I know, this is a specialty only bred in Indonesia now
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 3:23 pm
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Not sure about that. We usually feed them with frozen bloodworm and color enhancer pellet. Any bros here can advise me what pellet is good for my black ranchu? I heard that pellet with spirulina or color enhancer is not good for black ranchu. Thanks...
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 3:52 pm
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QUOTE(desireless @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 2:05 pm)
A rarity you have thereĀ  good.gif

From what I know, this is a specialty only bred in Indonesia now
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Tung Hoi ! 1st appear few years ago.
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 4:54 pm
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QUOTE(The Matrix @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 3:52 pm)
Tung Hoi ! 1st appear few years ago.
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Tunghoi of course every known species are sucessfully started by them.

I say it is a "specialty" to Indonesia. It does not mean the indonesian started this species. But until now ony Indonesia is known to maintain breeding this species.
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:10 pm
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QUOTE(KokiBali @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 3:23 pm)
Not sure about that. We usually feed them with frozen bloodworm and color enhancer pellet. Any bros here can advise me what pellet is good for my black ranchu? I heard that pellet with spirulina or color enhancer is not good for black ranchu. Thanks...
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KokiBali,
goldfish coloration is the most headache problem people have. They will change as they grows and sometime without reasons. Maintaining their pigmentation I would say is not an easy task.
The Black Ranchu you bought have good coloration except some slight fading on the belly (indeed it is the most difficult to maintain the blackness at that area and fading will usually started from bottom up). If I am not wrong, it was kept in green water before.
There are several factors that affect the goldfish coloration from my past self-reserach and experiences:-
a) Genetic (there is nothing much you can do about it). E.g. you can't turn a China black as dark as a Thai black. Also, you don't get what you expect when a fish grows, temporarily coloration e.g. unstable black, brown..., will go away with time (and may even come back!!).
b) Health of the goldfish, you will notice the more healthy the fish is, the more vibrant the coloration and vice versa.
c) Food. For your case, I think is best not to feed any colour enhancement product. Go for forzen or freeze dry products or colour maintenance food.
d)Last but not least, environment factors espeicially lighting is important. I believed not too strong and controlled lighting is needed. green water is always the best, espeically it shield the light. I also noticed goldfish kept in opaque plastic (blue is the best) or cement tank also help to maintain and promote the coloration. That's why some people have the inhouse glass tank background pasted "blue" or "black". Nowadays, fished are kept domestically in a cleared water tank without much lighting control and I think that is bad for goldfish coloration.

Hope this gives you some ideas. peace.gif
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:22 pm
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Hi goh,

There is still no concrete evidence that goldfish changes colour with their environment. So the blue or black surrounding is simply a matter of choice.
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I wonder if I can smuggle one of those black pearlscale ranchu into aussie biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(d_golem @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:26 pm)
I wonder if I can smuggle one of those black pearlscale ranchu into aussie biggrin.gif
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Many years back when I went to Perth,the customs confiscated my biscuits during arrival. sad.gif
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:45 pm
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QUOTE(desireless @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 4:54 pm)
Tunghoi of course every known species are sucessfully started by them.

I say it is a "specialty" to Indonesia. It does not mean the indonesian started this species. But until now ony Indonesia is known to maintain breeding this species.
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:49 pm
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QUOTE(The Matrix @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:45 pm)
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What's that? Someone pls explain.
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 6:06 pm
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QUOTE(CP @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 5:37 pm)
Many years back when I went to Perth,the customs confiscated my biscuits during arrival. sad.gif
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That's why.... unsure.gif

Will a baby goldfish survive if I put him in a thermos bottle or sumtin & periodically open it up for air? rusure.gif
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 6:08 pm
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Thanks, Gohks.

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d)Last but not least, environment factors espeicially lighting is important. I believed not too strong and controlled lighting is needed. green water is always the best, espeically it shield the light. I also noticed goldfish kept in opaque plastic (blue is the best) or cement tank also help to maintain and promote the coloration. That's why some people have the inhouse glass tank background pasted "blue" or "black". Nowadays, fished are kept domestically in a cleared water tank without much lighting control and I think that is bad for goldfish coloration.


Interesting issue. The LFS/farmer advise me to "sun-bathing" the fish for 15 minutes every morning, to keep the black color. I also heard that sun light is good for the coloration. Is it also good for black ranchu?
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post Mon, 05 Dec 2005 6:19 pm
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QUOTE(KokiBali @ Mon, 05 Dec 2005 6:08 pm)
Thanks, Gohks.
Interesting issue. The LFS/farmer advise me to "sun-bathing" the fish for 15 minutes every morning, to keep the black color. I also heard that sun light is good for the coloration. Is it also good for black ranchu?
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Maybe in a controlled manner. But I would think genetic is till the ultimum factor. That's why there can only be a few show grade "AAA" black Ranchu. yes.gif
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