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post Thu, 15 Jun 2006 2:54 pm
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QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:34 pm)
Now you know what I mean by "secret weapon". If I show you, then it no more becomes secret right? The trick is in the grooming. Patience my friend.
You mean the one you can only see the back side?

Will post the same fish after some time again.
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I have seen you mentioning grooming many a times on AF and RG. RG forummers have been rather open with their grooming techniques, so I think it is about time you share with the everyone your planned grooming practices too. I am sure it will be beneficial to have a two-way knowledge sharing.
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post Thu, 15 Jun 2006 4:47 pm
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people very secretive lah ... In RG, the purpose is to elevate the fish keeper knowledge by sharing the best practises and techniques. The good example is the dear RG Doc who has written so many articles on fish medication and treatment.

So it would be best to take the secret things out of this forum and dun even mention it if there is no intention to share.
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post Thu, 15 Jun 2006 6:07 pm
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QUOTE(The Matrix @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 4:47 pm)
people very secretive lah ... In RG, the purpose is to elevate the fish keeper knowledge by sharing the best practises and techniques. The good example is the dear RG Doc who has written so many articles on fish medication and treatment.

So it would be best to take the secret things out of this forum and dun even mention it if there is no intention to share.
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Don't like that say lah! I only started keeping goldfish seriously only about 2 years ago. Before that only rely on one 2 ft tank to keep all my goldfish. Now I only have 2 three feet and 2 two feet blue tubs to keep all my goldfish. Only recently(end of last year) add one 2 feet glass tank to my collection since started keeping Fancy goldfish.

Still learning. Sorry if I use the wrong word "grooming". This word "grooming" I learn from one of the goldfish club. I thought it is the appropriate word to use.

My technique still not properly tried and tested yet.

On the subject of "secret weapon". Sorry to have caused confusion and in some instances anger amongst members. I am just trying to add some humour/joke into the forum.

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Err, I don't think anyone is blaming you for using the word "grooming" at all, so there's no need for apologies. It is the correct word after all.

I am just curious to know more about your plan for all these new tikus. Eg. Water volume, feeding schedule, food, green or filtered water...
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post Thu, 15 Jun 2006 8:49 pm
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QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 6:07 pm)
Don't like that say lah! I only started keeping goldfish seriously only about 2 years ago. Before that only rely on one 2 ft tank to keep all my goldfish. Now I only have 2 three feet and 2 two feet blue tubs to keep all my goldfish. Only recently(end of last year) add one 2 feet glass tank to my collection since started keeping Fancy goldfish.

My technique still not properly tried and tested yet.

On the subject of "secret weapon". Sorry to have caused confusion and in some instances anger amongst members. I am just trying to add some humour/joke into the forum.
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It's okay, no need to be humble as all of us know your secret "secret weapon". laugh.gif Also, frankly I like your sense of humour and do keep the jokes coming/flowing yes.gif
BTW, think is time you change your nick to something more relevant ;)
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QUOTE(gohks @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 8:49 pm)
It's okay, no need to be humble as all of us know your secret "secret weapon".   laugh.gif Also, frankly I like your sense of humour and do keep the jokes coming/flowing  yes.gif
BTW, think is time you change your nick to something more relevant   ;)
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Can change nick meh?
OK!, I share little of my "grooming" style for my goldfish. Please follow with caution as I will not be responsible for any fatality that may occur as a result.

These are some of the do and don't in my goldfish keeping.

1. I keep all my goldfish together regardless of size or variety.
2. I use OHF
3. I feed my fish many many times a day.
4. I age my water.
5. I use coral chip in my filter.
6. I use auto-feeder.
7. I love to see my fish in crystal clear water.
8. I give my fish plenty of sunlight.
9. I love to visit LFS whenever I pass by one and have the time.
10. I love to "lim kopi" with people who keeps goldfish. (and love modifying cars)
11. I like to test out new products and new ways of doing things.
12. I believe that there will always be people better than me even though I try to be the best that I can be.
13. I use "hypo".
14. I love to buy fish when they are young.
15. I love to breed goldfish but,
16. I don't have the time to do so.
17. I don't use green water.
18. I don't change water but,
19. I use a flushing system.
20. I don't use expensive fish food. I use only "Hikari".
21. I use frozen feed like bloodworm, brine shrimp and daphnia.
22. I believe that there is no such a thing as a perfect fish.

Hope this can clear some of the "stale air".

I am attaching a picture of the big brother with its younger cousins. All the fish are kept in my 2 ft glass tank with a humble OHF with no aeration. It will stay this way for many months to come.

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har? don't change water, but use a flushing system? what talking you?
when i flush my toilet bowl, the water turn from brown to clear wor, can consider almost 100% change, so u change 100% is it? or u talking in car terms? flush the radiator with lots of water also change almost 100% wor..

feed many many times a day? how many times is many?
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post Fri, 16 Jun 2006 12:13 am
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U dun change water personally, but using a method called "flush" ... constant fresh water in-flow ? What's the flow rate and how do you make use of the outflow water, or rather recycling process ? How about a look at this secret setup ?

I have heard of some discus breeders utilise such method to refresh water for the frys but never have a chance to see it. Even when I breeding discus, i have to change 90% water 2x a day and water bill already cannot tahan.
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post Fri, 16 Jun 2006 1:01 am
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How come the fishes just arrived in less than one week and you've started mixing them with your old fish already?
Do you know last time the SARS epidemic started in a lift where the first carrier sneezed? prayer.gif

How you handle your (new) fishes is also part of grooming. Perhaps it's time you relook into your method and objectives.
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QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:04 pm)
4.  I age my water.
13. I use "hypo".
18. I don't change water but,

2 ft glass tank with a humble OHF with no aeration.
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How did u age water ?

When will u use hypo ? On aging water or in the 2ft tank ?
U dun change water but how does the system change periodically ?

When you said no aeration, does that mean that there is no visible sign of any bubble creation in your tank that would possibly result in oxygen dissolving in your tank ?

OR does that OHF create the aeration which you might have mistakenly thought that there is no aeration in your setup ?
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Once I had a secret love
That lived within the heart of me
All too soon my secret love
Became impatient to be free……
………………………………..
………………………………..

…………………………………….

At last my heart's an open door
And my secret love's no secret anymore

Secret love(Doris Day)


I would imagine RL serenading us with the above classic song pertaining to his fish keeping
Perhaps RL has finally opened his secret door to us, sharing his experience of success in grooming, keeping and winning at every competition Give him a chance to render us with his original and proven rendition and let us not close the door upon something new, something that sounds bizarre and perhaps something out of the ordinary.



Shhhhhhhhhhhhh secret squirrel
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sometimes...bizzare can be the best option in keeping fishes that have beautiful outcome. Have you seen people kept gfs out in the sun without any aeration?

flushing system? over here...there's a fish distributor in which their boss's hse have this power water system that works like a damn river flow. 24/7 got fresh de-clorinated water for his fishes ponds!!! can imagine the water bill???
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QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:04 pm)

1.  I keep all my goldfish together regardless of size or variety.
2.  I use OHF
3.  I feed my fish many many times a day.
4.  I age my water.
5.  I use coral chip in my filter.
6.  I use auto-feeder.
7.  I love to see my fish in crystal clear water.
8.  I give my fish plenty of sunlight.
9.  I love to visit LFS whenever I pass by one and have the time.
10. I love to "lim kopi" with people who keeps goldfish. (and love modifying cars)
11. I like to test out new products and new ways of doing things.
12. I believe that there will always be people better than me even though I try to be the best that I can be.
13. I use "hypo".
14. I love to buy fish when they are young.
15. I love to breed goldfish but,
16. I don't have the time to do so.
17. I don't use green water.
18. I don't change water but,
19. I use a flushing system.
  unsure.gif
20. I don't use expensive fish food. I use only "Hikari".
21. I use frozen feed like bloodworm, brine shrimp and daphnia.
22. I believe that there is no such a thing as a perfect fish.


I am attaching a picture of the big brother with its younger cousins. All the fish are kept in my 2 ft glass tank with a humble OHF with no aeration. It will stay this way for many months to come.


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Thks for sharing. Realized I also share the above same attributes biggrin.gif
How come you mix a D cup among the A cups, what sort of enhancement or implantation you use laugh.gif
Hope you can reveal your secret2.gif gunsmilie.gif soon, particularly on your setup. Don't keep everybody in suspense hi.gif
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I am rather disappointed that you do seem to be inclined towards a serious discussion. There quite a few contradictory things you have mentioned, and does not quite befit someone with multiple medals from the recent goldfish show. Why do I get a niggling feeling that you are treating the people here for fools? sad.gif

I believe you are well aware that this is a very serious goldfish keeping forum, and I myself would really prefer to have a proper and not just frivolous discussion.

Things you have missed out are
1. Feed timing. Not just "many many times a day"!
2. Aged water? And you used hypo? What's your rationale?
3. Why do you keep all your goldfish together irregardless of size and variety? I see that at least you keep ALL tikus together. But where are the rest of the 100? Culled already? All in a 2ft tank? On what scientific grounds do you think this is beneficial? Are you going you mix your prize-winners with these tikus as well? Are you kidding me again?
4. How did you ever maintained your water condition if there is so much overcrowding? How did you overcome the problem of nitrate poisoning?
5. Did you test the water paramenter when you introduce such a huge bioload into you available water volume? How did you make sure your filter system is up to the job?
5. AFAIK, flushing and changing water is the SAME thing. How do you administer hypo in the right amount in such a variable system? Do you use dechlorinated water for your WC?




QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:04 pm)
Can change nick meh?
OK!, I share little of my "grooming" style for my goldfish. Please follow with caution as I will not be responsible for any fatality that may occur as a result.

These are some of the do and don't in my goldfish keeping.

1.  I keep all my goldfish together regardless of size or variety.
2.  I use OHF
3.  I feed my fish many many times a day.
4.  I age my water.
5.  I use coral chip in my filter.
6.  I use auto-feeder.
7.  I love to see my fish in crystal clear water.
8.  I give my fish plenty of sunlight.
9.  I love to visit LFS whenever I pass by one and have the time.
10. I love to "lim kopi" with people who keeps goldfish. (and love modifying cars)
11. I like to test out new products and new ways of doing things.
12. I believe that there will always be people better than me even though I try to be the best that I can be.
13. I use "hypo".
14. I love to buy fish when they are young.
15. I love to breed goldfish but,
16. I don't have the time to do so.
17. I don't use green water.
18. I don't change water but,
19. I use a flushing system.
20. I don't use expensive fish food. I use only "Hikari".
21. I use frozen feed like bloodworm, brine shrimp and daphnia.
22. I believe that there is no such a thing as a perfect fish.

Hope this can clear some of the "stale air".

I am attaching a picture of the big brother with its younger cousins. All the fish are kept in my 2 ft glass tank with a humble OHF with no aeration. It will stay this way for many months to come.


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QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:04 pm)
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Please follow with caution as I will not be responsible for any fatality that may occur as a result.
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After reading through your list carefully, you don't worry have to about that biggrin.gif

BTW, some points for clarification:

4. I age my water.
13. I use "hypo".


Age for how long before use? You age your water or use hypo? Or you age first then use hypo? Or use hypo then age the water? Usually, it is either only 4. or 13. .


18. I don't change water but,
19. I use a flushing system.


Really don't know what this is, please elaborate
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