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Absolute Ranchu
post Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:53 am
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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Mon 12 Apr 2004 06:45 AM)
Hi, may I know what is a water purification system?

Sorry for the delay in answering your question. I personally use the carbon based water purification which is installed for all the water main in my house and farm. I use the same water as the fish. The filtering equipment is rather large and the carbon needs to be serviced around once every one or one and a half year. I can take pictures for you to see later if you like. Cheers.
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post Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:57 am
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hmm... doesn't that remove chlorine etc.. but at the same time a certain percentage of the trace elements vital to the fish's growth?
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post Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:51 pm
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since thai municipal water might be different from singapore tap water.

Could u do some tests to find out your tap water parameters before and after carbon filtration?

Just for a comparison, Thanks

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post Fri, 16 Apr 2004 4:48 pm
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Fri 16 Apr 2004 10:57 AM)
hmm... doesn't that remove chlorine etc.. but at the same time a certain percentage of the trace elements vital to the fish's growth?

The best growth for fish starts and ends with water quality. It is the most important. There are additive and food supplements that you can add to increase the nutrient in the water. The Japanese system uses clean water only and look at the size of the fish in Japan. Mr.Tajiro's East Ozeki Oya from the AJRS are pushing 30 cms. Clean water is a great start. Algae is the best as food supplement in the green water system.

Trust me, using this system is ok for fish. I got quite a few number of fish over 20 cms long. good_very.gif
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post Fri, 16 Apr 2004 5:32 pm
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QUOTE(Absolute Ranchu @ Fri 16 Apr 2004 04:48 PM)
The best growth for fish starts and ends with water quality.  It is the most important.  There are additive and food supplements that you can add to increase the nutrient in the water.  The Japanese system uses clean water only and look at the size of the fish in Japan.  Mr.Tajiro's East Ozeki Oya from the AJRS are pushing 30 cms. Clean water is a great start.  Algae is the best as food supplement in the green water system.

Trust me, using this system is ok for fish. I got quite a few number of fish over 20 cms long. good_very.gif

if u say green water is good for growth, then wat is Clean water ?

What is really Japan system which u have been referring to in several posts?

what do u specifically mean by green water system?

Clean Green Water?

Wat is green water to u? Here we go for intense green, is the picture i've attached the green u r referring?

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post Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:05 am
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How to measure the Ammonia level in a green water?Where alll the test kit depend on colour to know the value of the Ammonia.
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post Sat, 17 Apr 2004 7:01 am
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QUOTE(Hazy @ Sat 17 Apr 2004 12:05 AM)
How to measure the Ammonia level in a green water?Where alll the test kit depend on colour to know the value of the Ammonia.

There's only one brand I know of that markets test kit for use in tinted water, JBL.

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no need to test lah.....
as long as you maintain your stocking ratio and your water is green with ample sunlight, dun overfeed, should be no problem.....
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post Sat, 17 Apr 2004 1:59 pm
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Well,can see bro G-string don't believe in test kit. laugh.gif
Yesterday just bought a test pen and found out the PH of the tapwater over my area is 8.9. rusure.gif and my main tank is 7.8.
Is this normal??
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filtered green water???
my tank became like this after i went for reservist.
1 week no change water.
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there's actually filters running.
IOS and canister(will be rid of it soon)
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QUOTE(CyberET @ Fri 16 Apr 2004 05:32 PM)
if u say green water is good for growth, then wat is Clean water ?

What is really Japan system which u have been referring to in several posts?

what do u specifically mean by green water system?

Clean Green Water?

Wat is green water to u? Here we go for intense green, is the picture i've attached the green u r referring?

The two systems are two choices that hobbyist can choose from (actually there are other system too, but it will take too long to get into). The clean water system is reserved for the hardcore keepers only. The green system is adopted by most keepers who do not have enough time.

The thing about ranchu that I find is unique is that, there are no set solution for anything. You can be successful in using the different system that you use at home, as long as you educate yourself a bit about the nature of your fish. Ranchu lives in different weather around the world. In our region, ranchu never hybernate. In Japan, and most western countries, ranchu will hybernate for about three months without eating anything. The system from a clean system, becomes a green system, by default. You have to keep fish in the same environment throughout the winter.

How successful you are as a keeper, often depends on how much you experiment. Most keeper have to start the equation with the available free time you have to take care of your fish throughout its life. I have lots of help so I can do things that most people cant. The key is for you to educate yourself the most, then try to apply it to your fish as much as possible, as time permits for you. Most of your have a job to go to, so you know how much free time you have for your fish. To know the best way to keep fish, doesn't mean that you will be able to copy it 100% where you are. You have to modify it to best suit your needs.

I have two jobs that I have to juggle, but I have developed an easy system for my staffs to follow, that's the best for my fish at the farm. You have to try to find the right system that fits your need, at home, and stick to it.

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QUOTE(Hazy @ Sat 17 Apr 2004 01:59 PM)
Well,can see bro G-string don't believe in test kit. laugh.gif
Yesterday just bought a test pen and found out the PH of the tapwater over my area is 8.9. rusure.gif  and my main tank is 7.8.
Is this normal??

Ph test pen? have you correctly calibrated it?
u can double check against a cheap PH solution test kit.
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post Sat, 17 Apr 2004 8:18 pm
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i calibrated it before i use
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QUOTE(Hazy @ Sat 17 Apr 2004 01:59 PM)
Well,can see bro G-string don't believe in test kit. laugh.gif
Yesterday just bought a test pen and found out the PH of the tapwater over my area is 8.9. rusure.gif  and my main tank is 7.8.
Is this normal??

normal, my tap water is pH 9 smile.gif
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