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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 5:26 pm
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Hi,

Anyone got any idea what the idea tank depth/ height for both top view and side view ranchu?
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 5:52 pm
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QUOTE(YLD @ Mon 01 Dec 2003 17:26 PM)
Hi,

Anyone got any idea what the idea tank depth/ height for both top view and side view ranchu?

erm.. its a subjective issue..
for me my bigger tub is slightly over 1ft, but i think its recommended not to go above 1.5ft?
i'm not sure either
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 6:28 pm
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QUOTE(YLD @ Mon 01 Dec 2003 17:26 PM)
Hi,

Anyone got any idea what the idea tank depth/ height for both top view and side view ranchu?

up to you liao.

for japanese, their cement pond not exceeding 10". For chinese cement pond, some over 2m deep, some 2ft at most.
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 7:02 pm
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If i managed to sell off one of my 4 ft by 18in by 20in (L x B x H) tank, i will get a tank with a lower depth for goldfish. Therefore checking what the ideal tank height for goldfish.

My objective is to have a tank suitable for goldfish and also allow me to view from the side and at the same time low enough for top viewing.

Thanx for the reply.
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 7:42 pm
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QUOTE(YLD @ Mon 01 Dec 2003 19:02 PM)
My objective is to have a tank suitable for goldfish and also allow me to view from the side and at the same time low enough for top viewing.

Can I suggest you keep the present tank and buy a plastic guppy tub strictly for your top view fishes? Having a glass tank "low enough" is a compromise that... probably makes both side-viewing and top-viewing unpleasant. If you have the space, the guppy tub can be had for as low as $35. yes.gif

I can't remember the exact figure but if I'm not wrong, the suggested depth is 6, 8 and 12 inches for tosai, nisai and oya ranchu.

Now this low depth will play havoc to your other goldfish like oranda, demekin etc since they have dorsal fin that need to extend!

So... having a seperate tub for your (top-view) ranchu may be the right way instead of compromising your viewing pleasure and the fish's own comfort. sad.gif

Cheers!
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post Mon, 01 Dec 2003 9:35 pm
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Hi bro HB,

Thanx for the suggestion.

This is my observation, correct me if im wrong. I noticed ranchu are more active in low depth tank i.e fibre glass tank. One recent experience is at Home of Ranchu @ bukit batok where they have a huge and deep glass tank. I noted the BIG ranchu in there are unactive. Could their behaviour due to the depth of the tank?

I also rememdered one bro mentioned that the depth of the tank contribute to the growth of ranchu. Something like deep water cause ranchu to develop long body etc (subjected to errors!)

I actually have this in mind. With my current tank, i could place plastic partition horizontally and use them as the tank new base and adjust to desired height. This new base actually limit the goldfish from reaching the full depth of my 20 inch tank. Do u think this would reduce the water pressure on the goldfish?

BTW what the deminsions of the guppy tub?
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I did not pay much attention to those top-view ranchus in the 2 tubs at Home of Ranchus except noted from the shop keepers those are fishes belonging to his friend and are at the shop on consignment. biggrin.gif

There are a few points to take note when you do the artificial depth thingy with, I presume, plastic dividers commonly used as LH's tank's partition. For one thing, you cannot feed sinking type pellets or bloodworms since the food would sink below it and onto the floor. sad.gif You also have to make sure the fishes don't swim under accidentally trapping itself underneath; sometimes goldfish need to come up to the surface to gasp for air. But if you could set it up safely, it's like having a build-in sump tank with an extra volume of water. smile.gif

I'm not sure about the water pressure theory. If anything, I understand some chinese farmers have deep ponds to raise their goldfish. A bro did mentioned the relatively low depth for Japanese ranchus is to prevent them from developing a bad habit of diving instead of swimming horizontally.
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Hi Bro HB,

I will take note to prevent the fish from trapping below the artificial. Since there are not many holes on the plastics partition, i presumed that most of the sinking pellets and bloodworm will be available for the goldfish. I also plan to keep some bottom feeding fish like cory to feed on food that landed on the botom of the tank.
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QUOTE(YLD @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 18:11 PM)
Hi Bro HB,

I will take note to prevent the fish from trapping below the artificial. Since there are not many holes on the plastics partition, i presumed that most of the sinking pellets and bloodworm will be available for the goldfish. I also plan to keep some bottom feeding fish like cory to feed on food that landed on the botom of the tank.

Kekeke. Let's hope the cory doesn't hurt your goldfish. They are fast swimmer and I heard could eat the goldfish's body slime. I'd just use a water pump to sweep the floor clean instead.

QUOTE(Hun_Citizen @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 18:35 PM)
hb, this is what I have posted before

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age of ranchu = growth of ranchu = depth of water.

a general rule in desire growth a ranchu, new water must prepare with blue water and blue moss related to depth.

ranchu baby water deep 7-10cm.
tosai blue water deep 10-15cm.
nisai blue water deep 15-20cm.
oya blue water deep 20-25cm.

water deep than desire affect meat lump growing as pressure is greater than desire.
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Oh yes I was looking for this! beg2.gif
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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 19:55 PM)
Kekeke.  Let's hope the cory doesn't hurt your goldfish.  They are fast swimmer and I heard could eat the goldfish's body slime.  I'd just use a water pump to sweep the floor clean instead.

not just that, but it happened many times, hungry goldfish managed to catch hold of corys and attempted to stuff it down their mouth ohmy.gif
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I will take note. Thanx to all.
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Hi, is 1 feet depth ok? biggrin.gif
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Hi chaq, u might want to take a small note as 1 ft height tank might not hold enuff water volumn for your fish even if its 2 ft wide..
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Ok, i will make it maybe 14-16 inches, thanks
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Helo bros! i got a tank with a height of 2.5 ft smile.gif can the tank be used to keep goldfish? water level when will is aroud 2.2 ft. smile.gif Pls advise. tongue.gif
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