Ga 002 - Ranchu |
Ga 002 - Ranchu |
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Thu, 06 May 2004 7:36 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Hello everybody,
I bought this ranchu three weeks ago.Its 3 inches long. Hope to learn from your comments. thanks |
yamato38gunkei |
Fri, 07 May 2004 3:11 pm
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Moderator Member No.: 123 Group: Honorary Member Posts: 718 Topics Started: 31 Joined: 8-Mar-04 Last seen online: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 5:23 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 4:57 pm Green Water: No Country: Belgium |
Hello,
This Ranchu looks good. From the top and from the side. I only think it needs a lot of food so that the belly becomes deeper when seen from the side. A nice big tail ! I hope to see a better top view photo to give more detailed comments. Do you know the origin of this Ranchu ? Regards, Geert Coppens |
Frankie |
Fri, 07 May 2004 10:18 am
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
I'm a newbie to topview ranchu, and IMO I don't think this is a topview ranchu. The scalings indicate it is chinese and is therefore a sideview ranchu. Nevertheless, the nice big tails is 4-pivoted which is one of the most sought-after kind. The last pic shows the shindachi is more than 45 degrees, which is good especially when the Ozuke connects at an acute angle, but the tails is too tall. If you observe, this ranchu may dive downwards when it tries to swim away quickly. The osa is quite messy (for a topview) but that's not relevant for a sideview. As a sideview ranchu, the body shape is not good as it is too long. At this young age, there's room for the wen and cheeks to develop, and if you feed and take good care of this chinese, it may, IMHO, turns out nicely as a sideview ranchu. The trick may be to flatten the horizontally suspended tails somewhat by keeping it in great depth and higher current tank, and pumping it to give it a full body.
... my 2 cents worth. |
Frankie |
Fri, 07 May 2004 10:18 am
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Few comments...
1) The topview shot is not optimal for assessment. It should be a direct-overhead shot. 2) For a 7.5 cm ranchu, it should look less well developed. Leads me to think this ranchu may be growth restricted(stunted). 3) Colour is too strong, head development too much for this size 4) Caudal peduncle not strong/thick enough 5) Reasonable tail structure, topline, markings Cheers! |
Frankie |
Fri, 07 May 2004 10:18 am
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
when i look at the pics of the ranchu, the first thing that cross my mind is.... the tail is too long. too wide and too long for that size of body.
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Frankie |
Fri, 07 May 2004 12:06 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
nice tail, body abit short, headgrowth reasonable.. back abit thin, overall not bad for a thai topview ranchu..
do post a clear direct topview and sideview shot of the fish, thanks |
Frankie |
Sat, 08 May 2004 6:43 am
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Here are another two topview pic for your comments.
Thanks. |
Frankie |
Sat, 08 May 2004 8:47 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Thank you for the new photos. Now the fish actually looks too short. But I still love that tails.
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yamato38gunkei |
Sun, 09 May 2004 3:35 am
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Moderator Member No.: 123 Group: Honorary Member Posts: 718 Topics Started: 31 Joined: 8-Mar-04 Last seen online: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 5:23 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 4:57 pm Green Water: No Country: Belgium |
Thank you very much for the extra photos. Yes, it is true that when seeing these photos, the body is too short. It is a pitty, because the tail, head and scales are beautiful. The caudal peduncle should also be much stronger.
Regards, Geert Coppens |
Frankie |
Sun, 09 May 2004 3:15 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Geert, I am not so sure about the tail. Isn't there a kink in the hard rays? Would this constitue a major flaw?
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Frankie |
Sun, 09 May 2004 5:26 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun 09 May 2004 03:14 PM) Geert, I am not so sure about the tail. Isn't there a kink in the hard rays? Would this constitue a major flaw? Hello Frankie If you study the very first pic you'll notice the "kink" is not obvious. The "kink" is actually the tail folding down and flipped back as the fish swim forward. |
Frankie |
Mon, 10 May 2004 8:00 am
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
http://www.japanranchu.com has basic info on how to assess a ranchu...may be useful as reference for the hobbyist.
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Frankie |
Mon, 10 May 2004 10:34 am
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
QUOTE(Frankie @ Mon 10 May 2004 08:00 AM) http://www.japanranchu.com has basic info on how to assess a ranchu...may be useful as reference for the hobbyist. I went through the article and find it sounds familiar. I checked and sure enough it is re-worded from an original article published by Geert Coppens, and with many details omitted. You're definitely better off to read the real thing which can be found on Geert's web site. |
Frankie |
Wed, 16 Jun 2004 1:28 pm
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Mask ID to ALL Critics Member No.: 168 Group: Staff Posts: 8 Topics Started: 1 Joined: 7-Apr-04 Last seen online: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:05 pm User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
It's been six week since the fish was posted.
Six weeks is a relatively long period for a developing ranchu. How about an update? |
GA Secretary |
Thu, 17 Jun 2004 6:19 pm
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Mask ID to Fish Owner Member No.: 34 Group: Staff Posts: 20 Topics Started: 0 Joined: 29-Nov-03 Last seen online: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 4:28 am User's local time: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 10:57 pm From: RafflesGold GA Green Water: Not Telling Country: Singapore |
Ok, here is the updated pics.
But this time she brought along her boyfriend. |
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