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post Sat, 15 May 2004 7:49 am
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What do you all think of this Nisai Ranchu ? Thai ? Japanese ?

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post Thu, 27 May 2004 12:56 pm
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QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Thu 27 May 2004 08:24 AM)
It is impossible to buy the best Ranchu, because the breeders keep the best for themselves, for their students and for the members belonging to their group e.g. Kashino Ranchu Group.
We also should know that from every high quality spawning only a very small number are good enough to be developed as high quality Show Ranchu.
I think that the best way to obtain the very best Ranchu is to try to buy Seed Ranchu from famous breeders or famous bloodlines and to try to breed the High Quality Ranchu yourself.

I'm so confused. If breeders such as Kashino keep the best for themselves, then is there any value to those ranchus that they put up for sale to the general public?

I assume such breeders have special skills in culling. And with this skill, the young fish that they put up for sale to the general public are the lousier ones? Afterall, even an amatuer breeder knows how to cull fries with obvious defects, keeping less obviously defective one longer and cull them again when the defects are more obvious. So the worse kind to buy are really the black babies, isn't it? Afterall, I can't think of any reason why Kashino would put up babies with potential for sale to the general public! Heck, if you don't belong to his group, even the tosai/nisai he sells you are probably not that great. So I imagine a few diehards here are realizing they have been taken for a ride with those "Japanese" ranchus they paid good money for. You've been buying craps! rofl2.gif
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yamato38gunkei   Ga 004 - Ranchu   Sat, 15 May 2004 7:49 am
Frankie   As a newbie and having seen many photos of ranchu ...   Sat, 15 May 2004 5:30 pm
Frankie   I would guess that it is a japanese   Sat, 15 May 2004 5:30 pm
Frankie   hello Mr Geert. I am very new to ranchu judgemen...   Sat, 15 May 2004 5:30 pm
Frankie   nice fish..... neat scales, tail open up nicely......   Sat, 15 May 2004 5:30 pm
Frankie   IMHO... Nice head Nice body Nice caudal peduncle ...   Sat, 15 May 2004 5:30 pm
Frankie   I love this fish. I don't care if it's Th...   Sat, 15 May 2004 5:30 pm
Frankie   I have guessed that it is a jap. however i think i...   Sat, 15 May 2004 7:56 pm
Frankie   pardon me if i am wrong, but from the look of the ...   Sat, 15 May 2004 9:11 pm
Frankie   I my opnion, I really think it is a Thai. I too ...   Sun, 16 May 2004 6:15 am
Frankie   That's a tough question. Belong to one of yo...   Sun, 16 May 2004 3:11 pm
yamato38gunkei   Maybe this will help a little. At the time of the...   Sun, 16 May 2004 7:52 pm
Frankie   looks thai, yet certain features it has resembles ...   Sun, 16 May 2004 7:52 pm
Frankie   That should explain why most feature not develop ...   Mon, 17 May 2004 11:24 am
HappyBuddha   Geert, I think many of us are quite eager to find...   Tue, 18 May 2004 7:35 am
olddog   I am sure its a Japanese bloodline. The tail bone ...   Tue, 18 May 2004 6:25 pm
Frankie   I think Geert is asking this "What do you all...   Wed, 19 May 2004 8:43 am
Frankie   doh... if tat's the case, we can only post si...   Wed, 19 May 2004 11:23 am
yamato38gunkei   No problem. All comments are welcome ! I hop...   Thu, 20 May 2004 6:43 am
Frankie   would definately say its "BELGIUM"   Thu, 20 May 2004 6:43 am
yamato38gunkei   OK, finally my answer ! It is a Ranchu I bred ...   Sun, 23 May 2004 5:52 pm
DIYGOLD   dear Geert, thanks for your answer. I think everyo...   Mon, 24 May 2004 4:55 pm
yamato38gunkei   I think a Thai Ranchu and a Japanese Ranchu shoul...   Tue, 25 May 2004 7:24 pm
Frankie   Does that mean that a Thai breed (Japanese) ranch...   Tue, 25 May 2004 8:26 pm
Frankie   The art of keeping Ranchu is not to approach it a...   Thu, 27 May 2004 8:25 am
yamato38gunkei   Of course ! But there are still more high qua...   Thu, 27 May 2004 8:25 am
yamato38gunkei   I do not know ! But again, the very best are...   Thu, 27 May 2004 8:25 am
yamato38gunkei   It is impossible to buy the best Ranchu, because ...   Thu, 27 May 2004 8:25 am
yamato38gunkei   It may be a good idea to contact Alvin Lim !   Thu, 27 May 2004 8:25 am
Frankie   I'm so confused. If breeders such as Kashino...   Thu, 27 May 2004 12:56 pm
Frankie   Well these Jap breeders are actually culling out ...   Thu, 27 May 2004 3:35 pm
Frankie   I think that just because a girl do not make it t...   Fri, 28 May 2004 7:55 am
Frankie   These Ranchu are VERY VALUABLE to breed from ...   Fri, 28 May 2004 7:55 am
Frankie   I think if you are Mr Kashino. you will do the sa...   Fri, 28 May 2004 8:50 am
DIYGOLD   I think to understand what worth to buy takes a l...   Fri, 28 May 2004 6:16 pm


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