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post Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:51 am
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Hello

Here're pics of my favorite ranchu. Please give me your frank comments.

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post Tue, 15 Jun 2004 1:46 pm
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I'm sorry but this is not a nice ranchu.

If not for the drastic drop on its back, it actually resembles a lionhead goldfish.

Unfortunately I can't tell from the pics if the back is really as straight as it appears to be. Can you take a pic of the fish swimming naturally in your tank?

Is its colour fading? I see the scales are half-red. I think it needs a good green water spa to restore its colour.
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post Tue, 15 Jun 2004 5:15 pm
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I beg to differ
it is not of a traditional ranchu trait
but it has a good chance of turning out better in the right hands

a lionhead doesn't means it must have a straight back smile.gif
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post Tue, 15 Jun 2004 5:15 pm
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Please post the DIRECT SIDE VIEW of this ranchu for fairer comment. Your side view pictures is VERY slanted. I can't say for the curve because it looks a little crooked from your pictures.

The tiger head looks decent to me. Meaty instead of the watery type which will subside. It does not look like a lionchu to me, thankfully. The tail is looks decent to me. Pointed and open-up. These 2 features already suggest that this piece can NEVER be a chinese lionhead.

As for the colour wise, I must say it is really unique. Usually the colour part will fall on the top part of the fish, and the abdoment will be whitish. This fish has the opposite shade. My guess will be that all the fins coloured?

From what I can comment, this is a very good catch. Please post the DIRECT side view pictures for comments on its curvature, which is the most important feature of a good ranchu.
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post Tue, 15 Jun 2004 5:59 pm
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pics not good enough to show the exact profile of the ranchu.

if judging according to your pics, the arch is not smooth.
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post Wed, 16 Jun 2004 6:00 am
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over emphasis is made over the back, imho, as long as its smooth, no abrubt angles, or kinks, the curve would improve as the fish bulk up
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post Wed, 16 Jun 2004 8:45 am
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This is a photo taken one year ago, it was a young fish in this shot. You can see the back profile better; it has not altered over the year.
The head has changed and is filling out by the week. This could be due to the G/W!
I will try to sort a recent side shot and vid clip soon.

For the last month it is enjoying green water spa treatment. This is the first time the fish has been exposed to G/W. I like this fish for several reasons. Its most striking point is the perfect level swimming action. I also like the red fins.

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post Wed, 16 Jun 2004 8:43 am
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Wed 16 Jun 2004 05:59 AM)
over emphasis is made over the back, imho, as long as its smooth, no abrubt angles, or kinks, the curve would improve as the fish bulk up

look carefully, according to the 1st pic, there are 3 abrupt angle.
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Wed 16 Jun 2004 08:43 AM)
look carefully, according to the 1st pic, there are 3 abrupt angle.

which is definately caused by the water's refraction, and the hand covering portion of the fish that causes the illusion smile.gif
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looks like a chinese ranchu to me. imho, it looks like a very good fish. BUT looking at the "now" pics and the "1 year ago" pics, the development just isn't there!

the first few pics show that the fish is probably around 4"? did it grow much at all for the past 1 year? i would guess the growth rate is very slow, and this should have something to do with the keeping method.
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post Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:29 am
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Wed 16 Jun 2004 02:50 AM)
looking at the "now" pics and the "1 year ago" pics, the development just isn't there!

i would guess the growth rate is very slow, and this should have something to do with the keeping method.

You are very observant. The fish has been dormant in cool water for four of the last six months.It is now entering its early summer growth period. It will develop and change very quickly over the next for months.
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QUOTE(Secretary @ Wed 16 Jun 2004 11:28 AM)
You are very observant. The fish has been dormant in cool water for four of the last six months.It is now entering its early summer growth period. It will develop and change very quickly over the next for months.

ah... i see. That is something we locals will have little experience about. Let's see how temperature affect the growth of the fish.
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QUOTE(Secretary @ Wed 16 Jun 2004 11:28 AM)
You are very observant. The fish has been dormant in cool water for four of the last six months.It is now entering its early summer growth period. It will develop and change very quickly over the next for months.

Dormant in winter... entering summer... thinking.gif hmm....

Is this one of your own breed? Woof! woof! wink.gif

Good job!
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Tue 15 Jun 2004 05:14 PM)
Please post the DIRECT SIDE VIEW of this ranchu for fairer comment. Your side view pictures is VERY slanted. I can't say for the curve because it looks a little crooked from your pictures.

The tiger head looks decent to me. Meaty instead of the watery type which will subside. It does not look like a lionchu to me, thankfully. The tail is looks decent to me. Pointed and open-up. These 2 features already suggest that this piece can NEVER be a chinese lionhead.

As for the colour wise, I must say it is really unique. Usually the colour part will fall on the top part of the fish, and the abdoment will be whitish. This fish has the opposite shade. My guess will be that all the fins coloured?

From what I can comment, this is a very good catch. Please post the DIRECT side view pictures for comments on its curvature, which is the most important feature of a good ranchu.

I follow up my comment on this fish.

If it is not a drop of water on the tank external surface, there seems to be a little dent at the middle of the back of the fish. I hope keeping it in green water and pumping it further would make it less obvious.

The caudal peduncle is also not that ideal. It should be shorter and more steep. There happens to be a "U" at the meet-point between the peduncle and tail. This is also another minus point for a side view ranchu. Such feature will permanent, sadly.
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post Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:47 pm
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overall not too bad. Above average fish. Do watch the overall development in the coming warm weather, adjust feeding accordingly.

A nice side view profile would justify the overall feature. Not easy for us to give judgement in such photo. Cause more trouble for u to explain.
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