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Melvyn
Dear Ranchu's Hobbists,

I have tried a couple of times to post pictures on my ranchus,for ranchu's hobbists to comment.

But just not my luck in posting.

Anyway,hope this round will work,and I could hear comments before I give up these ranchus of mine.

Just want to know the standard of my ranchus,as I am not ranchu expert.
Am still learning as I just received the 'Fancy Goldfish' book bought in USA.
(by Dr.Erik....)

Thanks!
Melvyn
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:28 am)
Dear Ranchu's Hobbists,

I have tried a couple of times to post pictures on my ranchus,for ranchu's hobbists to comment.

But just not my luck in posting.

Anyway,hope this round will work,and I could hear comments before I give up these ranchus of mine.

Just want to know the standard of my ranchus,as I am not ranchu expert.
Am still learning as I just received the 'Fancy Goldfish' book bought in USA.
(by Dr.Erik....)

Thanks!
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2 more ranchu pictures

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Melvyn
One last ranchu picture,which I am trying my final luck.

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The Matrix
WAH LIAO !!!!! How come never submit this 3 fishes into the recent Dreamfish competition ??? WAT A WASTE !!

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Melvyn
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 4:03 pm)
WAH LIAO !!!!! How come never submit this 3 fishes into the recent Dreamfish competition ??? WAT A WASTE !!

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Hi Matrix,

Thanks for your interesting feedback.
Hope I could go for the next ranchu competition.
As I understand around next year jan. 2005.

Pls. feed me more information regarding competition.
I do have a few more 4" ranchu but not so good.
Hope it will grow well for the next couple of months.

Once again thanks for your prompt comments.
I will try to send more other ranchu pictures for your further comments.
I am taking you as my Xi-Fu from now onwards.

Thanks!
jhansolo
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:28 am)
Just want to know the standard of my ranchus,as I am not ranchu expert.
Am still learning as I just received the 'Fancy Goldfish' book bought in USA.
(by Dr.Erik....)
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There is a few copies available in National Library

Control Number 10100802
Author Johnson, Erik L
Publisher Weatherhill,, New York : 2001.
Year 2001.
Title Fancy goldfish : a complete guide to care and collecting
Call No English q639.37484

ISBN 08 348 0448 4

No Branch Location Date Status Where to find
1 Queenstown Community Library Adult Lending 19-07-2004 Available Locate item
2 Sengkang Community Library Adult Lending 05-10-2004 Available
3 Sengkang Community Library Adult Lending 03-10-2004 Available
4 Tampines Regional Library Adult Reference 12-03-2002 Available
Melvyn
QUOTE(jhansolo @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 5:38 pm)
There is a few copies available in National Library

Control Number 10100802
Author Johnson, Erik L
Publisher Weatherhill,, New York : 2001.
Year 2001.
Title Fancy goldfish : a complete guide to care and collecting 
Call No English q639.37484

ISBN 08 348 0448 4

No Branch Location Date Status Where to find
1 Queenstown Community Library Adult Lending 19-07-2004 Available Locate item
2 Sengkang Community Library Adult Lending 05-10-2004 Available
3 Sengkang Community Library Adult Lending 03-10-2004 Available
4 Tampines Regional Library Adult Reference 12-03-2002 Available
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Hi Jhansolo,

Thanks for your interesting information.
First time knowing such information of Fancy Goldfish - 2001 edition kept at our local library.

Anyway,i have got the latest edition - Second printing 2004.
Which my USA associate just sent me yesterday.
Very interesting to read and very encouraging to own more top grade goldfishes,
especially the pair of Tosakin I have owned.
Very good book in upkeeping of any goldfishes,especially when they are in distress.

Nevertheless,thanks for your information.
nobnoba
melvyn,
your ranchus are exceptional. why do you want to give them up? also, can you share with us on your method of keeping?
The Matrix
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 4:48 pm)
Hope I could go for the next ranchu competition.
As I understand around next year jan. 2005.

Pls. feed me more information regarding competition.
I do have a few more 4" ranchu but not so good.
Hope it will grow well for the next couple of months.

Once again thanks for your prompt comments.
I will try to send more other ranchu pictures for your further comments.
I am taking you as my Xi-Fu from now onwards.
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How to feed you ? I never like to feed anyone other than my own kids. No can do. Knowledge are learned thru your own passion.

Next Jan got competition ?

Si mi xi-fu ... sorry har ... dunno who u are.
Melvyn
QUOTE(nobnoba @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 5:52 pm)
melvyn,
your ranchus are exceptional. why do you want to give them up? also, can you share with us on your method of keeping?
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Hi Nobnoba,

Thanks for your compliment.

I am not really giving up,unless these expensive ranchus that I have bought,is worth keeping.
That's why I asked for comments.
Obviously I will accept majority advise.

Indeed a few ranchu lovers emailed me,asking me to sell them these nice ranchus of mine.
Anyway,I will look into it and decide,as I have 3 to 5 inches ranchus in total 50s.
Recently,my house lady keeps grumbling at me for taking care of my ranchus,more than my family.
Anyway,what to do,since I am a diehard goldfisher lover,for so many years.
That's why when too much of trouble might make one change their mindset.

Coming back to your questions,of upkeeping of my goldfishes.
Actually is simple,only after you have gone through all the trial and error of upbringing these goldfishes.
Not every goldfishes are easy to breed,especially the top grade goldfishes.
If you ask me,I will tell you from my experience,the $1.00 or $2.00 pack goldfishes selling in the aquarium shops,meant for big fishes consumption,are the easiest to keep.

So the if choice is top grade goldfishes(say ranchus) you wish to keep.
Pls. prepare to spent a little more money and time to look out for whatever goldfishes you wish to purchase.
Do not listen everything to those sweet talking retailer about how good are their goldfishes.
Watch closely and observe the goldfishes you wish to have.
If the ranchus are of good bloodline,you can defintely see the little sign of the good hood and tail,irregardless of the age,and whether they are from Japan or Thailand.
Many a times,these retailer's lower grade goldfish without any good growth,will say when they grow up,the the hood will grow,or it will turn out red body...etc.
I have been many a times disappointed with these retailers advise before,and I have learnt these painful lessons.(even good food is given)

If you could get a good bloodline goldfishes,no matter what you feed,as long as you maintain the basic cleaniness of water.preferably in green water with morning sun.
It will turn out good.
Obviously,if you provide them with good food,like the quality bloodworms,additional protein,wheat germs....etc.
It will defintely turn out to be a champion,as most farm breeders do.

Nevertheless,I am just giving you my piece of experiences.
Right or wrong,obviously is for you to decide.

So take care and good luck to your goldfishes.
Melvyn
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Tue, 19 Oct 2004 5:52 pm)
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Hi Jhansolo,

Thanks for your interesting information.
First time knowing such information of Fancy Goldfish - 2001 edition kept at our local library.

Anyway,i have got the latest edition - Second printing 2004.
Which my USA associate just sent me yesterday.
Very interesting to read and very encouraging  to own more top grade goldfishes,
especially the pair of Tosakin I have owned.
Very good book in upkeeping of any goldfishes,especially when they are in distress.

Nevertheless,thanks for your information.
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Hi Jhansolo or any ranchu magazine expert,


Since you are so knowledgeable about books/articles on Goldfishes.

Could you recommend me where to purchase Japan Ranchu magazines,selling in Singapore?
Likewise,if there is any proper english connection of Japan Ranchu Magazines mail order,pls. keep me posted too.
Plenty of websites on Japan written ranchu magazines especially mail order.
But do not understand their lingo.

Hope you could give me a good loophole.

Thanks!
supertop
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:35 am)

If the ranchus are of good bloodline,you can defintely see the little sign of the good hood and tail,irregardless of the age,and whether they are from Japan or Thailand.

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This is a so true statement, lucky for me to know it before paying the fees.

Everyone interested in TVRs might want to take note, especially those that like black babies ( that's me blush.gif )
nobnoba
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Wed, 20 Oct 2004 9:35 am)
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Hi Nobnoba,

Thanks for your compliment.

So take care and good luck to your goldfishes.
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umm unsure.gif , i thought my question was fairly straight forward and simple to understand, apparently not. unsure.gif what i meant was how do YOU keep your fish? using green water/clear water, filtration or not, what food are u feeding. etc.
i wasnt expecting the general assessment that you gave me just now.
Melvyn
Hi Nobnoba,

Sorry that I may have overbored you.
Problem is I enjoyed being detail in describing my past experience.

As I have mentioned,I am using morning sun only,as for the green water.
Anything dark green,immediately change 30-50% water.
Food JRL,Hikari pellets,froozen bloodworms,little wheat germs.
Normally I controlled minimium feeding with mixture of everything.
Blood worms feeding on weekends only.

Hope you will be happy with my short and sharp formulas.

Anyway beside this,perhaps because of your message,I received a few messages yesterday and today,asking me to sell them those ranchus that I have attached.

Must thank-you somehow or rather,for making my day.
yamato38gunkei
Dear Melvyn,

I do not want to spoil your fun, but I think these Ranchu are not good because they have very weak tails. And the tail is the most important part when evaluating Ranchu. I also think that the angle of the tail to the body is not good. They all hang with their heads down.
They do have a very good colour, scales and hoodgrowth. The bodies should be longer and stronger.

Regards,

Geert Coppens
Melvyn
QUOTE(yamato38gunkei @ Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:25 pm)
Dear Melvyn,

I do not want to spoil your fun, but I think these Ranchu are not good because they have very weak tails.  And the tail is the most important part when evaluating Ranchu.  I also think that the angle of the tail to the body is not good.  They all hang with their heads down.
They do have a very good colour, scales and hoodgrowth.  The bodies should be longer and stronger.

Regards,

Geert Coppens
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Hi Geert,

Read with doubts in your comments.

Indeed I have rechecked my ranchus after seeing your description 'not good' comment.
You are right,tail is the important point to note.
But I do not think it is that bad,as you have described.
If you see the actual fish swims and stabilize.
You be surprised how the actual beauties looked.

I am not saying my ranchus are the best.
But I have confident with these gfs at around 12 months old.
They will show more interesting details on the whole(front and back) for the next couple of months.

The most important point is,satisfaction for the small price I paid for,especially with most lovely features
I believe one thing is that,these ranchu gfs I have now,are better and cheaper than some top ranchu sellers in Japan.
To me,these are all champion gfs to me,as a goldfish hobbyist.
After all I am not a goldfish retailer.

Anyway,thanks once again for your kind comments.
The Matrix
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:13 am)
I am not saying my ranchus are the best.

I believe one thing is that,these ranchu gfs I have now,are better and cheaper than some top ranchu sellers in Japan.
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2 contradicting statement .... which line is your ranchu ?
Melvyn
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:48 am)
2 contradicting statement .... which line is your ranchu ?
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I think you only know about branded items,not quality items.
The Matrix
QUOTE(Melvyn @ Fri, 22 Oct 2004 1:53 pm)
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I think you only know about branded items,not quality items.
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Read what I posted, color swee only. since others have provided comments, it's up to you to think about what u got. either take it or leave it. All up to you.

as you have commented that your fish is better than the jap sellers, well .... maybe your judgement is correct.

what i can said is color swee.gif swee.gif ... that's all.
Melvyn
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 22 Oct 2004 2:40 pm)
Read what I posted, color swee only. since others have provided comments, it's up to you to think about what u got. either take it or leave it. All up to you.

as you have commented that your fish is better than the jap sellers, well .... maybe your judgement is correct.

what i can said is color  swee.gif  swee.gif  ... that's all.
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Hi Matrix,

Whatever it is.

Thanks for your great & kind support.'Swee ah Swee"

It will be better like this good_very.gif good_very.gif

Have a good weekend!!
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