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CHLeong
Hi,

My TVR fishes.

IPB Image tvr #1

IPB Image tvr #2

IPB Image tvr #3

Rgds

CHLeong
Frankie
#1:
Head growth may be there but the peduncle is too long. The fish is not well kept too.
Backbone is not thick enough as well.

#2:
Bad head, long penduncle, lousy tail. Probably struggle to swim too.

#3:
By far the best amongst the 3. Head growth still not outstanding but can be groom.
Backbone is good and peduncle short enough. tail set quite ok as well except that the oza is lacking.
Frankie
QUOTE(Frankie @ Tue, 21 Dec 2004 4:34 pm)
#1:
Head growth may be there but the peduncle is too long. The fish is not well kept too. Backbone is not thick enough as well.

#2:
Bad head, long penduncle, lousy tail. Probably struggle to swim too.

#3:
By far the best amongst the 3. Head growth still not outstanding but can be groom.
Backbone is good and peduncle short enough. tail set quite ok as well except that the oza is lacking.
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Frankie to Frankie

#1 Thai
#2 Thai
#3 Thai

simple enough ?
Frankie
QUOTE(Frankie @ Tue, 21 Dec 2004 4:40 pm)
Frankie to Frankie

#1 Thai
#2 Thai
#3 Thai

simple enough ?
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Yah ... think so too. Except 3rd pcs still got chance to be a Jap.

Oh btw ... 1st pcs is probably stunted too. cry.gif
Frankie
Not a tv person... but whats wrong with being a Thai har?

At least CH didnt spend a small fortune to buy commercial grade japs.

Afterall, judging from his poor sv ranchus selection/keeping standard, I'm glad he starts from the low-end of the scale with top view.
Frankie
Nothing wrong being a thai TVR.

Just that it lacks the refinements you get to see in a Jap one.

QUOTE(Frankie @ Wed, 22 Dec 2004 7:49 am)
Not a tv person... but whats wrong with being a Thai har?

At least CH didnt spend a small fortune to buy commercial grade japs.

Afterall, judging from his poor sv ranchus selection/keeping standard, I'm glad he starts from the low-end of the scale with top view.
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CHLeong
Hi Guys,
My fish has grown, just to share with everyone.
IPB Image Fukami
IPB Image Fukami
IPB Image Thai

Rgds
CHLeong
Frankie
QUOTE(Frankie @ Thu, 23 Dec 2004 9:31 am)
Nothing wrong being a thai TVR.

Just that it lacks the refinements you get to see in a Jap one.
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i wouldn't agree with the second line, it all depends on the quality of the Japanese or Thai smile.gif

and wow ... the improvements to the Ranchus good_very.gif
namaste
hi CHLeong,

I think you have raised them pretty well compared to the first posting. Especially their head. Are they given many bloodworm? Although they aren't the top quality. But I guess you have a very good experience to maintain the fish healthy and happy. Not an easy job I must say.

Good Luck,
Namaste
CHLeong
Thanks guys for your comments.

I learn much from this forum even though I have keep goldfish for many years. The forum has shared about stocking level vs space, which truly has contributed to the growth of my fishes.
And as for TVR, I am a "newbie" and made mistakes for my poor selection. These fishes were my first for TVR and follow by more purchases of TVRs and BBRs. I have lost some but learnt lessons from it.
Till date I am still trying to find the best possible way to keep goldfish in our hot tropical environment and confine space. Hence, I yet to empty my bank account for good TVRs, but my wife think that day will come. laugh.gif
What do you think goldfish wants? To me, good environment and good food. Good environment will be space for it to swim and good water for it to breath. Good food will be as natural, if possible.

Comment?

Rgds
CHLeong
CHLeong
QUOTE(CHLeong @ Sat, 18 Jun 2005 3:29 am)
Hi Guys,
My fish has grown, just to share with everyone.
Fukami
Fukami
Thai

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Hi Bros,
Last update of my fishes.

IPB Image

IPB Image

Please ignore the SV it was not in the post before.

Rgds
CHLeong
Frankie
Good work done on the colour.But, very low quality TVRs.
CHLeong
QUOTE(Frankie @ Sat, 03 Sep 2005 7:09 pm)
Good work done on the colour.But, very low quality TVRs.
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Thanks, this were my first TVRs.
I do not understand "very low quality", what is your reference? I bought this from tubs indicating only Tosai. There was no mention of "A, AA, AAA, Standard, Premium, Showgrade and Compgrade". If LFS do indicate, it is reliable and who actually did the grading, the breeder or the trader?
Appreciate if you can assist with your helpful reply as I keeping coming across these gradings and its not only confusing to me but also to other newbie.


Rgds
CHLeong
Frankie
what I meant by low quality is that these TVRs do not exhibit the good traits that a tvr should have, eg long head,long bodies,strong tail etc.they all have short bodies and weak peduncle and weak tails.

i do not go along with the categorisation of Ranchus into AA, AAA, Premium ,Showgrade etc etc.they are all just marketing bullshit.when buying fish, forget about the gradings.gradings influences pricing.you should not let that sway your judgement.

i hope my explanation is clear enough.apologies if there are any misunderstanding.
CHLeong
QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun, 04 Sep 2005 1:44 pm)
what I meant by low quality is that these TVRs do not exhibit the good traits that a tvr should have, eg long head,long bodies,strong tail etc.they all have short bodies and weak peduncle and weak tails.

i do not go along with the categorisation of Ranchus into AA, AAA, Premium ,Showgrade etc etc.they are all just marketing bullshit.when buying fish, forget about the gradings.gradings influences pricing.you should not let that sway your judgement.

i hope my explanation is clear enough.apologies if there are any misunderstanding.
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Your clarification is good and clear also no misunderstanding arised. Thanks!
Again, are you using AJRS standard as a reference? If so, that standard is too high to attain.
I understand there are people with deep pocket getting such high quality fishes or even prized fishes. Short cut to their objective not hobby.

Rgds
CHLeong
ranchu8
QUOTE(Frankie @ Sun, 04 Sep 2005 1:44 pm)
what I meant by low quality is that these TVRs do not exhibit the good traits that a tvr should have, eg long head,long bodies,strong tail etc.they all have short bodies and weak peduncle and weak tails.

i do not go along with the categorisation of Ranchus into AA, AAA, Premium ,Showgrade etc etc.they are all just marketing bullshit.when buying fish, forget about the gradings.gradings influences pricing.you should not let that sway your judgement.

i hope my explanation is clear enough.apologies if there are any misunderstanding.
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"low quality tvrs" comment, i would disagree. That they have short bodies, I agree but the top photo right Ranchu is a reasonably acceptable specimen. That they all have short heads, I would strongly disagree. The development is very good. Peduncles are not thick but reasonable. Tails are not strong but they are not weak either smile.gif Clearly they are in swimming motion, and my personal view is that if they are spread out when swimming, they are certainly too stiff.

ranchu8
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