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ball
My first posting. Hope the image file is inserted correctly.

Anyway, I have the following goldfish for almost 8 months already, this fish seem to stop growing when it reach 3.5inch after 5 month. I got it when it was really young, heard it was about 1 month old when I I got it.

So my question is, how big will a typical dragon eye goldfish grow?

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fish_dream88
i hav seen before d biggest is about 7-8 inches.....it is really beautiful and d size is huge..... shiok.gif
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 12:17 am)
My first posting. Hope the image file is inserted correctly.

Anyway, I have the following goldfish for almost 8 months already, this fish seem to stop growing when it reach 3.5inch after 5 month. I got it when it was really young, heard it was about 1 month old when I I got it.

So my question is, how big will a typical dragon eye goldfish grow?
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Head a little weird. Can take a better shot ?
body and tail is excellent. Is it brown or red fish ?

Do provide the readers here more info on your keeping method and tank size. Dragon eyes can grow very fast and large in size. 8" is common for a year old fish.
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 2:01 am)
Head a little weird. Can take a better shot ?
body and tail is excellent. Is it brown or red fish ?

Do provide the readers here more info on your keeping method and tank size. Dragon eyes can grow very fast and large in size. 8" is common for a year old fish.
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Will try to borrow a digi cam and take another few shots.
I suppose the head look weird because of the angle of shot.

OK, here is some info on its living condition.
1. Outdoor fibre tub of about 32 Gallon.
2. Tub contains :
2 X Calico Butterfly. Both size about 4.5"
2 X Crown Pearscale. size 5" and 3.5"
2 X Bubble Eyes. Both size 3.5"
4 X Ranchu. Size. 1X3", 2 X 2.5", 1X 2"
3. Water has been clear for two years until it turns green about 1 months ago. Reason is unclear yet.
4. Home made upflow filter. Has been using it for two years.
5. Feed twice a day. Morning and evening.
6. Food are those cheap 1kg for 5 dollar floating round pallet.
7. Tub is expose to sun with 20% covered.

Not sure if any of the above is affecting its growth.
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:11 am)
1. Outdoor fibre tub of about 32 Gallon.
2. Tub contains :
    2 X Calico Butterfly. Both size about 4.5"
    2 X Crown Pearscale. size 5" and 3.5"
    2 X Bubble Eyes. Both size 3.5"
    4 X Ranchu. Size. 1X3", 2 X 2.5", 1X 2"

SO MANY FISH in 1 small tub ... wah liao. Over crowded !
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3. Water has been clear for two years until it turns green about 1 months ago. Reason is unclear yet.
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what have u added before the water turns green ?
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:32 am)
SO MANY FISH in 1 small tub ... wah liao. Over crowded !

Hahaha .... the tub look spacious when I bought them when they are small. Also feel it is too small liao. Will transfer the ranchus into another tub soon.

what have u added before the water turns green ?
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I set up another tub (lets call this tub2) in Aug 2004. The water turn clear after about 8 weeks. And this remain clear for about 4 weeks until a period of continuous heavy rain. Tub2 remain green since then.

Although Tub2 turn green due to heavy rain, Tub1 remains clear at that time. I suppose the algae on the tub wall and bottom was so thick that it helped to keep it clear. To confirm this, so 1 month ago, I decided to do an experiment by transfering some green water from Tub2 to Tub1 and see if Tub1 will clear it. Unfortunately, it turn out the be a big mistake. I guess the green water from Tub2 plus those heavy rains during the last month, cause Tub1 to be green.
The above are just what I think. The rain may not be the cause. All the fishes look healthy and active though.

BTW, the fish in the pic is red and white in colour.
CP
QUOTE(ball @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:11 am)
Will try to borrow a digi cam and take another few shots.
I suppose the head look weird because of the angle of shot.

OK, here is some info on its living condition.
1. Outdoor fibre tub of about 32 Gallon.
2. Tub contains :
    2 X Calico Butterfly. Both size about 4.5"
    2 X Crown Pearscale. size 5" and 3.5"
    2 X Bubble Eyes. Both size 3.5"
    4 X Ranchu. Size. 1X3", 2 X 2.5", 1X 2"

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32gallons (120 litres) for 10 fishes.Way,way overcrowded.If the fish had been in this environment for the last 5 months,chances are already stunted and will not grow further.
In this forum we recommend at least 80litres per fish,so by keeping just 2 in that tub is already overcrowded in that sense.
Reduce your stocking level,and check nitrate levels periodically (keep it below 50ppm) as far as fish growth is concerned.
ball
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 1:49 pm)
32gallons (120 litres) for 10 fishes.Way,way overcrowded.If the fish had been in this environment for the last 5 months,chances are already stunted and will not grow further.
In this forum we recommend at least 80litres per fish,so by keeping just 2 in that tub is already overcrowded in that sense.
Reduce your stocking level,and check nitrate levels periodically (keep it below 50ppm) as far as fish growth is concerned.
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Oooops .... calculation mistake. The correct volume of the tub is 236 litres.
Still way overstock even with this figure.
Seem like my fish has been stunted.
Hope for miracle liao.
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 3:22 pm)
Oooops .... calculation mistake. The correct volume of the tub is 236 litres.
Still way overstock even with this figure.
Seem like my fish has been stunted.
Hope for miracle liao.
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It is a filtered tank (other than green water), now can call it Bio-green liao. shiok.gif

Anyway, 10 fishes of around 4"+, giving them 10G per fish, you will still need a 100G tub. Right now 236L or around 60 gal, you have to find a way to remove some of them. Still up to you. U want to grow them or just to see.
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 3:29 pm)
It is a filtered tank (other than green water), now can call it Bio-green liao.  shiok.gif

Anyway, 10 fishes of around 4"+, giving them 10G per fish, you will still need a 100G tub. Right now 236L or around 60 gal, you have to find a way to remove some of them. Still up to you. U want to grow them or just to see.
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Actually I prefer the water to be clear so I can enjoy watching the fishes. Now that it is green, I shall console myself that the fish will probably grow better in green water.

Fish that I like, hopefully will grow, fish that don't interest me anymore, just keep it alive and healthy and hope it don't grow to take up the space of other fish. ---> Typical human being.

Seem like must really restrict myself in my purchase liao. Tub2 will be crowded soon. How do you guys handle such space problems?
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 4:48 pm)
Actually I prefer the water to be clear so I can enjoy watching the fishes. Now that it is green, I shall console myself that the fish will probably grow better in green water.

Fish that I like, hopefully will grow, fish that don't interest me anymore, just keep it alive and healthy and hope it don't grow to take up the space of other fish. ---> Typical human being.

Seem like must really restrict myself in my purchase liao. Tub2 will be crowded soon. How do you guys handle such space problems?
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ask for more space lor. Mutil-layer tubs, tanks and pay the bills. hahahahaha
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 07 Jan 2005 4:54 pm)
ask for more space lor. Mutil-layer tubs, tanks and pay the bills. hahahahaha
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Anybody wants faded panda ??
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Sat, 08 Jan 2005 5:49 pm)
Tried snapping a pic of this fish using a Nokia handphone. Just wana show the head. The colour shown is not a good representation of the colour though.
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did your tub of fish got fin rot or sudden death of fish before ? The entire outer rim of the tail seems weird. Sign of problem probably within the past 2 mths.

fish not bad, just the tail.
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Sun, 09 Jan 2005 2:38 am)
did your tub of fish got fin rot or sudden death of fish before ? The entire outer rim of the tail seems weird. Sign of problem probably within the past 2 mths.

fish not bad, just the tail.
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There was a case of fin rot somewhere in August 04 after I introduce 2 panda from the neighbourhood LFS without quarantine. Those two panda did not survive then. Did a 0.3% salt treatment so resolve the problem. Your eyes is sharp. Pei Fu.
peter porker
QUOTE(ball @ Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:09 pm)
There was a case of fin rot somewhere in August 04 after I introduce 2 panda from the neighbourhood LFS without quarantine. Those two panda did not survive then. Did a 0.3% salt treatment so resolve the problem. Your eyes is sharp. Pei Fu.
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erm...don't need to be a rocket scientist to notice the jagged edges at the tail portion. smile.gif
The Matrix
QUOTE(peter porker @ Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:05 am)
erm...don't need to be a rocket scientist to notice the jagged edges at the tail portion. smile.gif
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not just that. the damage on this fish was quite serious and in fact the rest of the fish should got the same effect. The damage over the structure looks very bad and should be a sudden case of massive rotting. So bad until the structure did not recover at all.

The weak recovery growth on the tail still showing sign of the problem did not go away immediately, merely temporary held by some medications.

Ball, do you add salt in your tub ? Or maybe some kind of stress-coat or watever ?
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:21 am)
not just that. the damage on this fish was quite serious and in fact the rest of the fish should got the same effect. The damage over the structure looks very bad and should be a sudden case of massive rotting. So bad until the structure did not recover at all.

The weak recovery growth on the tail still showing sign of the problem did not go away immediately, merely temporary held by some medications.

Ball, do you add salt in your tub ? Or maybe some kind of stress-coat or watever ?
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I added salt in the tub since I suspect the whole tub is infected.
No other medication applied.
ball
New pic taken with new digicam.
Never grow much, just a bit fatter only.


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goldfishtalk
can know where u got these fews from bro ??? looks nice and how much do they cost? thanks !!
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Sun, 20 Mar 2005 1:01 am)
New pic taken with new digicam.
Never grow much, just a bit fatter only.
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tail completely damaged. too bad.
not a bit fatter hor, it's overfeeding liao.
ball
QUOTE(goldfishtalk @ Sun, 20 Mar 2005 1:22 am)
can know where u got these fews from bro ??? looks nice and how much do they cost? thanks !!
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Only paid $3.50 when it was very young. That LFS closed down two months after I bought it.
The Matrix
QUOTE(ball @ Sun, 20 Mar 2005 2:07 pm)
Only paid $3.50 when it was very young. That LFS closed down two months after I bought it.
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dragon eyes is one of the fastest growing variety among goldfish family. 6 mths enough to grow to 15cm
ball
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Sun, 20 Mar 2005 10:44 pm)
dragon eyes is one of the fastest growing variety among goldfish family. 6 mths enough to grow to 15cm
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Yup. Knew about that too. Need to review why like that. Main suspect is space right now.
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