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desireless
1st National Ranchu Competition 2005
(Hosted by Yuhua CC and Vanda Ranchu Club)


Date: 27 Feb 2005

Venue: Yuhua CC [90 Boon Lay Way (S)609958]


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COMPETITION CLASSES:

I) Cat 1 : Top View Ranchus
- Cat A : Junior Tosai (8cm - 10cm)
- Cat B : Tosai (10.1cm - 12cm)
- Cat C : Nisai (12.1cm - 15cm)
- Cat D : Oya (15.1cm and above)
(measured from tip of head to Tail TIP)

Judges: Mr Aos Koban (Thailand), Mr Alvin Lim (Singapore)
-- 5 winners from each category. 1 Grand Champ. Total 21 trophies.


II) Cat 2 : Side View Ranchus*
- Cat A : Ranchus below 3 inch in length
- Cat B : Ranchus above 3 inch in length
(measured from tip of head to tail JOINT)
(please note the "Tail Joint vs Tail Tip" difference)

Judges: Mr Boy (Thailand), Mr Alvin Lim (Singapore)
-- 3 winners from each category. 1 Grand Champ. Total 7 trophies.

*One 2-feet tank will be provided for each SV ranchu.

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Registration Venues: Japan Ranchu Palace, Qi Kim Hu, Fins And Palace (betta shop at Farmart Centre), Yuhua CC.
Registration Fee: $20 per entry (no limit to entries per participant)
Benching-In Time: 27 Feb 2005 (7:30am - 9:30am)
From Sean: All ranchus to be submitted at owners' discretion. Fishes will be re-categorised if wrongly submitted.

Rules & Regulations list to be collected at Registration venues.


This post has been edited by desireless: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 8:12 pm
CP
A very good evening to all.

I believe many of you would have heard of the Ranchu competition to be held at Yuhua CC in abt a months' time.I am posting the fish that I intend to send to the competition,a black ranchu of abt 3" under the "sideview below 3 inches " category.

There may be some who are participating but would rather keep your masterpieces a secret whistle.gif in the meantime,but I hope that I will not end up the sole contributor to this thread unsure.gif so let me start the ball rolling........


Got this bugger in July 04,about one and a half inches when purchased.This pic was taken in Sept 04.
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It has been seven months since and #%#%!*&^%#@!! it is now only still 3 inches!! mad.gif Damn slow growth!!She was kept in outdoor pond since Oct 04 and I will bring her home again after the competition.
Here are some pics from top taken in Dec 04, at the farm.I do not have any more sideview pics.
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I think her strengths are having a nice buffalohead and small tail (quite rare in black ranchus) good.gif ,whereas her weakness lies in the fact that her tails are not pointed enough hmm.gif .I have not observed her swimming pattern from sideview for the last 4 months so I can't comment on that.

Enough said from me,so guys and gals,your turn to roll your balls please..........
The Matrix
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:53 pm)
her strengths are ........ ,whereas her weakness lies in .........
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based on 100 points, how many u think you can score ?
Let say ... 25 for head, 15 for body, 25 for tail, 15 for size, 10 for posture, 10 for color. Give yourself a fair judging and if you can't score >75, find another fish.

for size, every inch away from the min size of small category, u lost 5 pts.
for posture, if the fish struggle to swim, u lost 5 pts.
for color, u aga-aga hor.
for body, u use the thai style, AA, AAA .... every flaws u lost 2 pts. major flaw, 10 pts.
tail or rather finage ... damage fins, 5 pts. single anal fin 5 pts. no strength in fins, 10 pts.

i give 15 to the fish head for now.

aga-aga only har ... Virtual criteria for a start ... hahahaha
desireless
Eh? What happen to your massive-head-growth ranchu with white cheeks? Secret weapon ah? biggrin.gif

My fish is no secret. Can see on banner last time.

Anyway, this one got chance or not?

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rolleyes.gif
dcd
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:10 am)
based on 100 points, how many u think you can score ?
Let say ... 25 for head, 15 for body, 25 for tail, 15 for size, 10 for posture, 10 for color. Give yourself a fair judging and if you can't score >75, find another fish.

for size, every inch away from the min size of small category, u lost 5 pts.
for posture, if the fish struggle to swim, u lost 5 pts.
for color, u aga-aga hor.
for body, u use the thai style, AA, AAA .... every flaws u lost 2 pts. major flaw, 10 pts.
tail or rather finage ... damage fins, 5 pts. single anal fin 5 pts. no strength in fins, 10 pts.

i give 15 to the fish head for now.

aga-aga only har ... Virtual criteria for a start ... hahahaha
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Recently, i talk to a ranchu keeper friend, I was told that single anal fin is ok for competition and mostly point will not be deduct unless is fighting for the best, the single anal fin lose out to a ranchu( about the same standard) with 2 even anal fins

I wonder is my friend saying the truth??
The Matrix
QUOTE(dcd @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 3:57 am)
Recently, i talk to a ranchu keeper friend, I was told that single anal fin is ok for competition and mostly point will not be deduct unless is fighting for the best, the single anal fin lose out to a ranchu( about the same standard) with 2 even anal fins

I wonder is my friend saying the truth??
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correct.
CP
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:10 am)
based on 100 points, how many u think..............
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Wah piang,so cheem wan ar?!! ohmy.gif

First time take part competition leh,donno how scoring is like blush.gif .Never really tried working out the scoring.I thought that swimming pattern is the next most important criteria after body shape for a SV ranchu.

There are some imperfections ('holes') on the pectoral fin as well,so basing on the judging criteria it is likely to score below 75.But got no other fish leh,so I will still send this one and pay $20 for the fun of it.
CP
QUOTE(desireless @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 2:30 am)

My fish is no secret. Can see on banner last time.

Anyway, this one got chance or not?

rolleyes.gif
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Peng you eh, you sure or not?!!So many better ones from your always changing avatars and you are sending this one with a kinked back and big tail??!! ;)

Heh heh heh secret weapon(s) to be revealed on that day is it?biggrin.gif
The Matrix
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 9:47 am)
Peng you eh, you sure or not?!!So many better ones from your always changing avatars and you are sending this one with a kinked back and big tail??!! ;)

Heh heh heh secret weapon(s) to be revealed on that day is it?biggrin.gif
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That secret weapon got chance to match those over thousand bucks fish. well, that's the fun of it.

See if white fish can win top prize again ...
infinity
QUOTE(desireless @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 2:30 am)
Eh? What happen to your massive-head-growth ranchu with white cheeks? Secret weapon ah? biggrin.gif

My fish is no secret. Can see on banner last time.

Anyway, this one got chance or not?



rolleyes.gif
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if i remember correctly, this fish was 2nd runner up in the KL comp.
desireless
QUOTE(infinity @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 7:13 pm)
if i remember correctly, this fish was 2nd runner up in the KL comp.
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Someone did post the pict of 1st runner up.. So long ago... Can't find liao. no.gif
CP
QUOTE(infinity @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 7:13 pm)
if i remember correctly, this fish was 2nd runner up in the KL comp.
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What??!!!
Either only 3 entrants in the category,or I really have lots more to learn. beg2.gif
Care to share what is so special about the fish?
CP
QUOTE(desireless @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 2:30 am)
Eh? What happen to your massive-head-growth ranchu with white cheeks? Secret weapon ah? biggrin.gif


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You refering to this piece?
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=23528

Not secret weapon lah,she's just photogenic,thats all.Looks better from pic than in real life,swims awkwardly and has put on lots of weight.She's even too lazy to struggle when you hold her in your palm which makes phototaking a breeze.One of my favourites.
infinity
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 9:14 pm)
What??!!!
Either only 3 entrants in the category,or I really have lots more to learn. beg2.gif
Care to share what is so special about the fish?
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this fish is huge, almost 7 inches.
beauty is in the tail, its wrap around, can't see anal fin from side.
seldom got short bodied ranchu can grow till this size.
CP
QUOTE(infinity @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:57 pm)
this fish is huge, almost 7 inches.
beauty is in the tail, its wrap around, can't see anal fin from side.
seldom got short bodied ranchu can grow till this size.
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Oooh....tks for enlightening.I thought it was only about 3 or 4 inches.
CHLeong
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 9:39 am)
Wah piang,so cheem wan ar?!! ohmy.gif

First time take part competition leh,donno how scoring is like blush.gif .Never really tried working out the scoring.I thought that swimming pattern is the next most important criteria after body shape for a SV ranchu.

There are some imperfections ('holes') on the pectoral fin as well,so basing on the judging criteria it is likely to score below 75.But got no other fish leh,so I will still send this one and pay $20 for the fun of it.
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Bro, I like your style! If can vote via SMS, I sure vote for your fish.
LASERGUY
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Tue, 25 Jan 2005 10:10 am)
That secret weapon got chance to match those over thousand bucks fish. well, that's the fun of it.

See if white fish can win top prize again ...
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You say white fish.... shiok.gif shiok.gif shiok.gif
The Matrix
QUOTE(LASERGUY @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:10 pm)
You say white fish.... shiok.gif  shiok.gif  shiok.gif
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hahahahaha ... dun tell me u sending in white fish hor.
LASERGUY
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:21 pm)
hahahahaha ... dun tell me u sending in white fish hor.
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rolleyes.gif whistle.gif
The Matrix
QUOTE(LASERGUY @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:26 pm)
rolleyes.gif whistle.gif
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putting in a butterfly tail sakura ranchu dunno how hor ... disqualify becos of tail or gain extreme high point for rarity.


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CP
QUOTE(CHLeong @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:36 am)
Bro, I like your style! If can vote via SMS, I sure vote for your fish.
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Thank you,thank you, but unfortunately its Ranchu Competiton, not Ranchu Idol leh. laugh.gif
CP
Up till now I am still the only one who post my fish.The rest all whistle.gif whistle.gif only.

Too many secret weapons................ ;)
CP
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 1:17 pm)
putting in a butterfly tail sakura ranchu dunno how hor ... disqualify becos of tail or gain extreme high point for rarity.
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Call Sean to have another category - New breed ranchu.
Would be nice to see fish like these,or pearlscale ranchu,maybe even panda ranchu.
Seacucumber
i will be sending this fella....
Cat B....above 3 inch....
this is a 7 inch female

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dcd
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 5:29 pm)
Call Sean to have another category - New breed ranchu.
Would be nice to see fish like these,or pearlscale ranchu,maybe even panda ranchu.
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hahha. or shd have a guess ranchu country of orginal competition for all experts to teach us newbie how to see a thai tv from jap tv...
CP
QUOTE(Seacucumber @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 5:45 pm)
i will be sending this fella....
Cat B....above 3 inch....
this is a 7 inch female
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Wah.. swee.gif
7 inch some more!!
The Matrix
QUOTE(Seacucumber @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 5:45 pm)
i will be sending this fella....
Cat B....above 3 inch....
this is a 7 inch female
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got chance.
Seacucumber
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 5:57 pm)
Wah.. swee.gif
7 inch some more!!
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aiyah....ok lah....still slightly shorter than my rod.... rolleyes.gif
white horse T1
QUOTE(Seacucumber @ Wed, 26 Jan 2005 6:13 pm)
aiyah....ok lah....still slightly shorter than my rod....  rolleyes.gif
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u blacky specialist or what? no red no white no orange to send ah?
RobinYip
anione noes where can i get e registration forms? went to polyart jz nw and e shopkeeper said no more.. sad.gif
desireless
Hi, refer to the fist post in this thread.

You can still get at JRP, Fins and Palace and HOR:
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=23911
desireless
How come only 3 people post only?

You all think this fish got chance or not?
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Taken last time... now 7 inch plus a bit

I don't want to waste money leh...
Seacucumber
the head only win liao....
my black ranchu no fight....
CP
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 8:39 pm)
Hi, refer to the fist post in this thread.

You can still get at JRP, Fins and Palace and HOR:
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=23911
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Polyart no more.

Update from Sean last Sun 23 Jan:
1)Yuhua CC
2)JRP
3)Fins & Palace (Farmmart)
4)HOR
5)Qi Kim Hu (Woodgrove,Woodlands Ave1)

Or call him at 91527703.
CP
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 8:47 pm)

You all think this fish got chance or not?
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Swee, but you want to send lionhead to ranchu competiton? rusure.gif

Heh heh heh,my apologies if that is a ranchu,to make the judging discussion more interesting,can someone confirm if the statement below is true.

"For sideview ranchu ,wen covering eyes fully are a no no,except when judging black ranchus."

In other words,for SV ranchus (except for blackies),you lose points if the headgrowth has covered the eyes fully.
CP
QUOTE(Seacucumber @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 9:09 pm)
the head only win liao....
my black ranchu no fight....
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Psychological warfares..... biggrin.gif
LASERGUY
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:15 pm)
Swee, but you want to send lionhead to ranchu competiton? rusure.gif

Heh heh heh,my apologies if that is a ranchu,to make the judging discussion more interesting,can someone confirm if the statement below is true.

"For sideview ranchu ,wen covering eyes fully are a no no,except when judging black ranchus."

In other words,for SV ranchus (except for blackies),you lose points if the headgrowth has covered the eyes fully.
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Jun or not ? That means this one no hope lah.... sad.gif

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CP
QUOTE(LASERGUY @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:26 pm)
Jun or not ? That means this one no hope lah.... sad.gif
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Hearsay hearsay only,cannot confirm.Maybe Matrix can advise?
desireless
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:15 pm)
Swee, but you want to send lionhead to ranchu competiton? rusure.gif


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This is truely a lan-cho leh... Only the curvature a little 'unique'. I sending her for the Special Fish category
The Matrix
i can't give advice lah ... ming pai mah ...

a ranchu is a ranchu, a lionhead is a lionhead. the problem is .... too complex if i start to say lionchu is not ranchu and yet, still classify under ranchu ...

whatever, as long as you think the fish is nice, just send in.

black ranchu is good to have the eyes covered by the wen. but the problem is a chinese black ranchu will not get such priviledge. I seldom see such chinese fish also except in 2004 Fish Love show.

but not necessary that a red one cannot. the fact is that those crossed breed fish will have some portion of eyes covered.

and here goes the next problem, a ranchu do not have any part of the eyes covered lah. U look at your jap ranchu lor, got any wen covering the eyes or not leh.

So all depends on the judges final decision. A good fish is a good fish. Dun be bothered by all these minor problems.

Just submit your fish according to the basic entry criteria printed on the form and wait for the results after benching in.
CP
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu, 27 Jan 2005 8:47 pm)
How come only 3 people post only?

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Ya,only 3 and all SV categories.Many secret weapons still in SV.

Not a single TV shown.Those must be WMDs, weapons of mass destructions!!
CP
How,may I ask,does one prepare a fish for competition?

I was told to starve the fish one or 2 days before the competition,any other tips to share besides that?

Many thanks in advance.
mountain
try not to send in too much eggs if the fish is a female
CP
So if full of eggs handspawn before going?
mountain
i guess so .. tats wat i notice at some of the fish competitions ..
wat do you think?? would you handspawn clean it before packing it up for competition if you had a pregant female ranchu? or leave its tummy bloated hopeing it will score better in body shape? i also dunno .. more of a general opened ended question rather then answering your 1st question biggrin.gif

i have never taken part in competition .. dunno wat to do except bring my own camera.
CP
Me handspawn?Can't even tell if fish is full of eggs or not. biggrin.gif

First time taking part,current planning is just to starve it a day or two and off it goes.
Seacucumber
QUOTE(cpiw2002 @ Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:17 pm)
Me handspawn?Can't even tell if fish is full of eggs or not.  biggrin.gif

First time taking part,current planning is just to starve it a day or two and off it goes.
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den during the comp, your fish get hungry and faint how?? unsure.gif
desireless
Bring Panadol or "chin chow you" pour inside lor! biggrin.gif

Actually it is only a one-day event. So the fish can tahan the non-feeding of 2 days. I've read from some other place... got people say don't feed one week in prep for competition. That's only kiasu. hmm.gif
desireless
Please note the latest update of info on this competittion (1st post in this thread):
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=23911
CP
QUOTE(desireless @ Mon, 31 Jan 2005 8:16 pm)
Please note the latest update of info on this competittion (1st post in this thread):
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=23911
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Only 3 prizes per category for SV but 5 for TV?? mad.gif mad.gif

KNN no choice then,actually I wanted to send 5 SV fish per category looks like I will only send 3 now.
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