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Nic
Bros and Expert out there...

Bro I know that Tamid need (none colour enhancer) diet and sunlight to maintain its black coat, but now i had a question.

I had a Tamid that had a pretty black coat but now due to it living in my home tank (lack of Sunlight) is starting to loss a bit of its black coat, if i bring it out to an outside tank with amp. sunlight and green-water and start a pure BW diet would the Black coat recover...? blush.gif
CP
A good quality tamid (ya,talking bloodline and genes again) will not lose its black even if kept without sunlight or fed colour enhancer foods.

I dont consider all black ranchus as tamids.To me,tamids are strictly from Thailand.

Look closely at the black ranchu's scales.If the scales are shiny or reflective these are the types that may turn golden brown or end up with white belly.

A good quality tamid's scales should not shine - it should be in "matt" finish.It is like a piece of black cloth draped over the shiny scales.Sometimes you can see this layer 'torn' off revealing the inside of the scale which has a golden shine.And these 'torn' off layers will usually grow back within a week,provided that your water quality is good.
Nic
Does this meant that it will eventually turn gold.... Bro cpiw2002
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CP
QUOTE(Nic @ Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:02 am)
Does this meant that it will eventually turn gold.... Bro cpiw2002
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Hi Nic,

I cant be too sure but i think so. sad.gif Hope that I am wrong.

It is not easy to find a 100% charcoal black and I have yet to see one.Normally tend to have lighter black tone or golden near belly.

Check this out:
http://www.RafflesGold.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1294

Considered by many a very good tamid yet the few shades of gold at belly is unavoidable.
Nic
seen this tamid really a gem, will be putting my small guy in green water soon, hopefully small guy would develop 70% close to the Ga029... good_very.gif
Seacucumber
this has been a very debative question since the beginning of goldfish discussions....hehehehe..

i had seen black ranchu kept in greenwater and the colour is superb...
and also i had seen a very black ranchu kept in greenwater and colour faded to a total bronze after a few weeks...

after much observation with a black ranchu of mine kept indoors with biological filtration, i happen to find out that the black coat is somehow or rather affected by light....

in the morning after switching on the 1st ray of light for my tank, i would realise that the black coat is not that black....showing a bit of golden shade at the belly and on the sides....but after leaving the light on for about 30 mins, it had actually regained its black coat!

try this experiment and see for yourself...
CP
For mine,whether indoor or outdoor,pond water or tank water,light or no light,no difference.
The Matrix
at least andy got a magical fish .... keep changing color.

ask the thais, why some can change color, some won't .... hmmmm
Nic
Bros so what do you guys feed your Tamids...?

Any diff. from the coloured ones.... smile.gif
desireless
So long as you do not feed any pellets with colour enhancer
Nic
Bro any good quality sinking pellets (without color enhancer) to recommend...? tongue.gif
Seacucumber
QUOTE(Nic @ Fri, 18 Mar 2005 5:01 pm)
Bro any good quality sinking pellets (without color enhancer) to recommend...? tongue.gif
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colour enchancer is ok lah....only natural ones....
e.g. spirulina...

avoid those that will agressively enchance red pigments...

Hikiari Lionhead is a relatively cheap and good food....
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