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nanik
Hi,

Comment please Good or bad (sideview ranchu)?

Looks like there is some problem with my previous website, I've updated with the new one (Thanks HB good.gif )

Cheers
Nanik
HappyBuddha
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Not bad, but the pic was taken at an angle to the tank and the ranchu looks distorted? It's not that fat, is it? tongue.gif
white horse T1
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Wed 14 Jan 2004 05:27 PM)
Not bad, but the pic was taken at an angle to the tank and the ranchu looks distorted?  It's not that fat, is it?  tongue.gif

i like this piece head growth and cheek.
but i prefer it to be more proportional to its body. got a similar piece like this.

but this one the tail appear to be torn.
apart from the a/m, i think it is a AA grade piece, am i right? nanik
Seacucumber
head is good...
but a slightly shorter body and a little more arch at the rear will look better....
square_guy
the 1st half of the fish looks good. the 2nd half of the fish doesn't look good. tail is seated too high, so the fish doesn't look balanced. i also find the tail too short from top to bottom.
kingyoo
I like the red color at the base of the tail. Nice head.
dennis
Like what g-string and square_guy said, a little more arc at the rear which also means a lower seated tail, that would make this fish close to perfect for me.
ttsen
where to get this kinda ranchu, i like the r/w pattern from the top, better if this is a top view specimen. thanks.
caster
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Wed 14 Jan 2004 05:27 PM)

Not bad, but the pic was taken at an angle to the tank and the ranchu looks distorted?  It's not that fat, is it?  tongue.gif

I would prefer a fish gradually arch on the back and with more pronouce/faster arch at the tail portion. The body looks too short due to the big round tummy. I prefer egg shape fish. smile.gif

With burging reduce by 1/3... it would make an ideal fish for me. BTW it's just my preference. And the maybe the tail a little smaller.

something like http://www.thairanchucentre.com/gallery_s1.html
Fish no.8


Cheers
HappyBuddha
Wow leow... you guys could tell from that pic? I'm hoping Nanik would take another pic showing the fish side-on. As it is now, I find the tails are way too small (but then they're probably not when seen in the flesh.) I like those cheeks though. I would definitely go for another one with coloured fins; white ones disappears in the tank (to me at least) and make the fish looks deform. smile.gif
mrchoco
nice head and colour
back and arc could be better. Perhaps it can be a good top view as well.
for side views, generally I prefer good bends.
nanik
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Thu 15 Jan 2004 04:08 PM)
Wow leow... you guys could tell from that pic?  I'm hoping Nanik would take another pic showing the fish side-on.  As it is now, I find the tails are way too small (but then they're probably not when seen in the flesh.)  I like those cheeks though.  I would definitely go for another one with coloured fins; white ones disappears in the tank (to me at least) and make the fish looks deform.  smile.gif

Hi all,

Thanks for all the comments, really appreciate it. The fish that I posted is not from our farm, it's from an importer who owns a shop, which he imports from Thailand. Not sure what grade it is as the owner is not willing to tell me (I think he is also not sure because he told me he picked it up because he likes the colour and also the head growth. Fair enough).

The tail is quite short but it's not that very short, only a bit short than what is an ideal tail. The body is a bit "bumpy" not smooth, though it's not obvious if you stand from far rolleyes.gif . The head and the "hood" is good along with the colouration, and yes the stomach is a bit "bulgy" but that's because of the photos, not because it is very fat rolleyes.gif (I'm not good at taking pictures)

But overall, this fish is not bad at all but of course you can't call it a showclass, as it is nowhere near to the showclass fish. shiok.gif, but I think it is a good exercise for us to see what is good and bad about a fish. But what I learn so far about fish, especially with ranchus, is that in every bad feature of a fish we can find a good feature about it too, so overall it complements each other peace.gif

Cheers
Nanik
HappyBuddha
Nanik, is this ranchu in your own collection? Do show us updates in a few months time. I'd love to see how people groom their fish. I mean... everyone can buy new fish but to keep and groom them well is something a deep pocket can't help much. smile.gif Fish is not like static commodity where you can buy the best and keep it wrapped in a safe. You need to groom it well. And that's what keeping goldfish is all about, isn't it?

I'm a lousy keeper. mad.gif
goldfishguy
I throughly enjoy reading while you guys critique each others fish.
I however do like the comment made on another topic "It is a good fish
if you like the fish".
Don't we all have our own eye for what we think is an attractive specimen?
What's perfect to one isn't necessarily so to another. Nevertheless, I enjoy
reading your comments. yes.gif
giorin
Nice side view ranchu.
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(goldfishguy @ Sun 18 Jan 2004 10:57 AM)
I throughly enjoy reading while you guys critique each others fish.
I however do like the comment made on another topic "It is a good fish
if you like the fish".
Don't we all have our own eye for what we think is an attractive specimen?
What's perfect to one isn't necessarily so to another. Nevertheless, I enjoy
reading your comments.  yes.gif

Sometimes we tend to be too frank with our comments. sad.gif

There's a saying Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder. Sure, that's generally true, but when it comes to goldfish, many will agree a person's perception of Beauty can change. Take my first ranchu, attached, for instance. Back then, I knew a ranchu should have a smooth curved back. I also make sure it doesn't have any missing scales, torn fins etc.

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I swear I thought it's a beautiful ranchu. So when I received a one-liner reply that the tails is too flat, I was a little ... insulted.

Well well, it took me a while to finally figure out that the comment was truthful. Thank goodness I didn't scream and shout or picked a fight with that person. biggrin.gif

It's a butt ugly ranchu because a decent ranchu should not have a flat tails.

What I'm trying to say is... most newbies are not familiar with how a good ranchu should be. If they're willing to learn, they will pick up cues that will change their perception of what constitute a beautiful ranchu. Be thankful when members here willingly critique your ranchu... if you are ready to learn more. tongue.gif
juve10
I would like to say that "in your own view", if you find that the fish is a beauty to you, you buy. If not why still buy. Comments are meant for us (newbie) including me to learn how to pick, view & buy a gd & beautiful goldfish. peace.gif

To me, I will buy if I see it & "love at 1st sight" kinda of thing.
I didn't post any of my goldfish cos I got no digital cam. Hope to get 1 soon & see if there's any comment so as to pick up some knowledge. biggrin.gif

What I'm saying here is, when some1 comment the head not nice, the tail not nice, learn fr it but as long you think its a beauty, its gd enough. Rite guys! good.gif

Hope not to offend any1. Cheeers.............. & Happy New Yr to all of you. beer1.gif

Also does any1 know which type of kitchen salt don't contain silica gel??? hmm.gif I try to check out the content of the packaging but didn't show.
square_guy
QUOTE(juve10 @ Mon 19 Jan 2004 02:00 AM)
Also does any1 know which type of kitchen salt don't contain silica gel???  hmm.gif  I try to check out the content of the packaging but didn't show.

OT, but which country are you from? you meant silicon gel as in those in small packets which are somethings found in airtight products? If so, i don't see why you can't take it out.
white horse T1
so Sheringam!!! where are u? come back? comeback!

don get offended pls.......
juve10
QUOTE(square_guy @ Mon 19 Jan 2004 09:22 AM)
OT, but which country are you from? you meant silicon gel as in those in small packets which are somethings found in airtight products? If so, i don't see why you can't take it out.

Singapore.

Not Silicon gel. I believe it slica gel which keep the salt from sticking together. I couldn't find the thread (aquarium salt vs kitchen salt) to show you. sad.gif
I believe its mix together also.
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square_guy
QUOTE(juve10 @ Mon 19 Jan 2004 02:25 PM)
Singapore.

Not Silicon gel. I believe it slica gel which keep the salt from sticking together. I couldn't find the thread (aquarium salt vs kitchen salt) to show you.  sad.gif
I believe its mix together also.

i have seen quite a number of threads on this topic. i think kitchen salt refers to iodised salt and usually has some kinda anti-caking agent right? believe u r referrign to this?

anyway i just get those real cheap salt from ntuc (25cents for 500g, comes in plastic packaging). these are good enough.
juve10
hi square guy, Yes. Tks for your clarification.

Its seems like all packaging does not show what the contents inside rite?

To me I rather get those reali fine salt compare to those in bigger form like crystal.
CyberET
lesser impurities allows larger crystals to form.. no?
HappyBuddha
I prefer chunky rock salt.

I was told that's the purest kind of salt since... they didn't grind it down so fine that you can't see if they added any additive.

I was told to gentle rinse them before use. biggrin.gif
square_guy
QUOTE(CyberET @ Tue 20 Jan 2004 09:11 AM)
lesser impurities allows larger crystals to form.. no?


dunno man, o level chemistry ah? if i remember correctly, impurities serves as a starting point for the crystal to form, but how large the crystal can get will depend on the length of time it is allowed to grow. no?

QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Tue 20 Jan 2004 09:27 AM)
I prefer chunky rock salt.

I was told that's the purest kind of salt since... they didn't grind it down so fine that you can't see if they added any additive.

I was told to gentle rinse them before use.  biggrin.gif


still rinse them?? wasteful leh... i just go for the cheapest stuff biggrin.gif

this multi-quote thing is cool good.gif
CyberET
QUOTE(square_guy @ Tue 20 Jan 2004 09:44 AM)
dunno man, o level chemistry ah? if i remember correctly, impurities serves as a starting point for the crystal to form, but how large the crystal can get will depend on the length of time it is allowed to grow. no?

ohya hor.. i remember the fast heating and slow heating
sighz.. i returned all my knowledge to my teachers cry.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(square_guy @ Tue 20 Jan 2004 09:44 AM)
still rinse them?? wasteful leh... i just go for the cheapest stuff  biggrin.gif

The rinsing is to get rid of dusts and the likes collected on those halai salt. laugh.gif
CyberET
"rock salt is not as pure as fine salt. but rock salt is natural salt which contains some natural impurities. For fine salt, it's purified for human consumption and iodine additive added.

The process of purifications contains some form of chemicals which is not really that harmful to both fish and human. These chemicals - iodine ( important element for human ), edible breaching agents to make it crystal clear and anti-caking agents to prevent it from forming lump. Also purification remove the trace elements from the natural salt.

BUT when comes to cost, it make no sense to buy processed salt."
juve10
ohmy.gif Are we into secondary sch science liao... laugh.gif

I think i started the wrong topic... sad.gif ops.

Get back to goldfish guys.... beer1.gif
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