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Hamad
I'm curious to know what you guys feed your fish, how many times a day, and what advantages you had from this routine.

I feed Tetra Gold Medal as the main food twice a day in small quantities [I use the Growth and Color enhancer], and feed blood worms and green peas usually later in the day. I also fast the fish for one day each week to avoid swim bladder.

As for advantages, this worked into helping some of my fish grow but didn't work with others for an unknown reason [could be from the water]. I couldn't find Hikari products in this country so there isn't much to experiment with... sad.gif

Share yours...
CyberET
i'm feeding a mixture of hikari lionhead, hikari wheat germ, medi super gold, Japan Ranchu Lord and frozen bloodworms
i feed 3 times a day in the morning, and one cube of bw per fish a day smile.gif
HappyBuddha
I may have a more unusual feeding method than you guys.

For tubs that I intend to change water daily, I feed the fish in it mainly with frozen bloodworms. I estimate each fish gets at least 3 to 4 large-cube hikari per day, and I don't even bother defrosting but drop them into the tub frozen solid and let the "vitamin added water" melt into the water. The fishes get pumped up quickly -- but 100% daily water change for these tubs.

For my normal tank where I change water twice a week (100% too each time!), I'd feed Hikari Lionhead and some frozen bloodworms. The amount of pellets is quite large and frequent. Sorry... it's hard to describe the amount per fish and the frequency is... as often as I like but at least 3-4 times a day.

For my display tank, I'd feed both types of Tetra medal gold (growth and colour) a 'normal' amount 2 times a day. The fishes in the display tank are there not for long so slightly starving them won't kill or retard them. This sparsely stock display tank is very clean... but still at least 50% water change a week.

So it all boils down to how much trouble I want to go through when it comes to maintaining the water quality and what I want out from the fishes.

Green peas are fed once a week to all... provided I remember to do it! biggrin.gif

I don't starve my fish to "cleanse" their system, however.
HappyBuddha
To add my 2 cents on various kinds of goldfish pellets...

In my opinion, they're all the same. Some, such as JBL's Goldperls, may have extra ingredients (the Goldperls contains 10% spirulina!) but... these are just marketing gimmick. I seriously doubt anyone can tell in my face the gimmick really works! Others like JRL and Chroma have higher than normal amount of proteins... but too much of anything is no good.

So... to me it all boils down to how messy the pellets are and the cost. To this end, many will agree that Hikari Lionhead is the ideal choice. Best of all, it's the sinking type which, IMO, is preferred for goldfish so prone to SB problem.
Hamad
HappyBuddha, I used to change water 100% daily and thought it was working fine but someone at some other forum 2 years ago told me that this is wrong and it stresses the fish and can lead it to death etc...so I stopped using this method and stuck to cycling tanks only.

How long have u been using this method and did u face any trouble? Because if you didn't I would love to go back doing this as it was easier for me!

It seems from reading both your post and CyberET hikari lionhead is essential, I just wish if I can find them sold here! sad.gif
kingyoo
I feed all my tanks and ponds 2x daily, 3 or 4x on the weekends. tongue.gif

I mostly feed Hikari frozen bloodworms,krill, and mysis shrimp. I feed pro-gold pellets when I am late for work. biggrin.gif

I feed spiralina flakes as a treat 1 or 2x per week. I also feed peas as treat when I remember.

I do 50% water changes once per week. Clean filters every week, but not the same day as water changes.

I used to feed pellets more often, but I discovered that pellets cause too much poop. I realized that lots of poop means lot's of filler in pellets. Whole foods are better in that the fish utilizes more and so less poop. good_very.gif


The fry eat live daphnia or Hikari frozen baby brine shrimp. All they can eat, all day long.
CyberET
hmmm... i do 98% change every 2 weeks depending on the green
for the overstocked 2ft tank, i do 80-100% change every 3-4 days

a little hikari spiralina is fed to those fishes in the indoor tank to maintain their color as well

100% daily change can be done if water parameters doesn't swing too much..(a day in different country is too much) tongue.gif

maybe u would like to check the pH and temperature before proceeding with the change, daily

erm.. stress depends on how u handle the fish i think..

i do daily water changes for some of my fishes in qurantine as well
i think the thai breeders do daily water changes unsure.gif
dennis
I rotate pellet brand and type between Hikari Lionhead Gold(S), Oranda Gold(F), Medi Super Gold(S), Medi Gold(F), Medi ?? (blue package for koi). I usually open a pack and finish it before going into the next brand so on, takes about 3 weeks to finish a 350g pack. This are for breakfast only, I feed pellet meals once a day.

On the day before water change day ( once a week 90% change ) everyone gets an extrat cube of Hikari Frozen Blood worm. Once or twice a week in the evening they get a green pea or roman lettuce snack.

My idea of an all rounded diet smile.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(dennis @ Thu 29 Jan 2004 11:29 AM)
I rotate pellet brand and type between Hikari Lionhead Gold(S), Oranda Gold(F), Medi Super Gold(S), Medi Gold(F)

May I know what do the bracket S and F stand for?

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dennis
(S) - Sinking
(F) - Floating

Sorry for the confusion blush.gif
Jos Nana
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Thu 29 Jan 2004 05:50 AM)

In my opinion, they're all the same.  Some, such as JBL's Goldperls, may have extra ingredients (the Goldperls contains 10% spirulina!) but... these are just marketing gimmick.  I seriously doubt anyone can tell in my face the gimmick really works!  Others like JRL and Chroma have higher than normal amount of proteins... but too much of anything is no good.


Finally, you have awaken !
mountain
huh? wats going on??
for me .. feed anything but LH pellets laugh.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(Jos Nana @ Thu 29 Jan 2004 11:57 AM)

Finally, you have awaken !

blush-big.gif

And to think the past days have been most ideal for sleeping in yet I am wide awake. sad.gif

QUOTE(mountain @ Thu 29 Jan 2004 01:35 PM)
huh? wats going on??
for me .. feed anything but LH pellets  laugh.gif

Why har? LH pellets confirm have the most dragons and phoenix har? rofl.gif
void
I feed mine 3x a day with Hikari Lionhead, Hikari Oranda, Hikari Spirulina, Tetra GoldMedal Growth Food, AquaOne dried shrimp (choose the small small ones, big ones give aros), Hikari frozen bloodworm and frozen peas... I rotate them... depending on my mood loh... hehehe... I must control the fish... not the fish control me... hehehe... peace.gif
Hamad
Anyone know where I can get Hikari online? And does it have an expiry date? Thanks!
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(Hamad @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 02:21 AM)
Anyone know where I can get Hikari online? And does it have an expiry date? Thanks!

I don't know any online store but I do know the pellets has expiry date printed on the packaging.

BTW, the 1st two digits represent the year, so "0502" means the the expiry date is Feburary 2005 instead of May 2002. There's some confusion over this matter because here in Singapore we typically interpret date format as the latter. smile.gif
kingyoo
Forgot to add that I feed 1x a week some oranges or tangerines for Vitamin C. Sometimes zucchini too. When in season, I feed raspberries or strawberries also for Vitamin C.

My fish will eat anything, except Pizza! tongue.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(kingyoo @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 06:46 AM)
Forgot to add that I feed 1x a week some oranges or tangerines for Vitamin C.  Sometimes zucchini too.  When in season, I feed raspberries or strawberries also for Vitamin C.

My fish will eat anything, except Pizza!  tongue.gif

laugh.gif

How do you feed them oranges? In juice form or just the pulp? I have lots of left-over manadarin orange from chinese new year and eager to share them with my goldies. faint
kingyoo
I peel the white stuff off as much as possible for each segment. I then break into small pieces based on the size of the goldfish. My large 8 inchers can eat half a slice, for the small guys I break it up. If you have koi, you can toss the whole peeled orange in and watch them have fun. Like koi soccer.

After they are done eating, I pick out any white membrane left on the bottom.

If your fish don't eat them at first, they will. Just leave it there and when one starts to eat it, the others will follow. Fresh Vitamin C is very good for goldfish.

Vitamin C is also good antibiotic, feed oranges when your fish are sick too.
Hamad
HappyBuddha, I found this site:
The Fish Sempai

Could you please tell me it seems alright also which ones do you think I should get? Thanks!
CyberET
Hikari Lionhead, maybe Japan Ranchu Lord if u've ranchus..
Japanese MediGold (we have Medi Super Gold, yellow packaging)

heard Pro-Gold & Shogold are not bad but never tried, can't get hold of it
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(Hamad @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 08:42 AM)
HappyBuddha, I found this site:
The Fish Sempai

Could you please tell me it seems alright also which ones do you think I should get? Thanks!

The Hikari Lionhead pellets we all love is this one. Strangely, the online store asked for US$21.85 for the 350g pack when it only costs us US$5.00 in Singapore! I can't understand why it costs 4 times more! A mis-quote, perhaps? To further confuse me... the Japan Ranchu Lord (JRL) is US$13.25. This compares well to US$10 that we pay for in Singapore! Given this light, I frankly suggest you shop around for other stores to buy the Hikari pellets. It's good but it's NOT that great at that kind of price. Alternatively, just go for the JRL - the choice of many japanese ranchu breeders.

While you're shopping at this famous store (sorry I forgot about it yesterday), you might want to order this book. It has many beautiful photos of all kinds of goldfish and is a treasured book by those who own a copy. It's no longer in print and hard to come by in Singapore. sad.gif

Finally, there's this DVD produced by Tung Hoi (famous breeder in China, and home of "Bruce" the longest oranda in the world) that may be good for newbies.... It's available in Singapore for just US$17.65.

Oh yeah, I see it sells the Ammonia Alert meter too. (We pay US$7.65 in Singapore.)
HappyBuddha
I would like to add the Japanese Medi "SUPER" Gold in a yellow packaging that ET mentioned above is the preferred sinking type. The standard non-super in red packaging is floating type.

Come to think about it, can you get Hikari Oranda Gold in UAE? It's suppose to be the same as Hikari Lionhead except it's floating type.
Hamad
I was actually shocked by these prices, but maybe it's worth a try since this stuff isn't sold here. Unfortunately, no store here deals with any Hikari products! Tetra and JBL only, other brands are very very rare! sad.gif

I'm going to get the DVD [excited for that!] and the Ammonia alert [thanks for pointing it out!]. As for food, I'll try to get Hikari Lionhead and ShoGold.

I'd love to get the book too but....too expensive!! $46! I wonder how much shipping will be... sad.gif

I will make sure to search online one more time, maybe I'll find a cheaper site because this is too much to spend on things that are available in stores for half the price! If I can't find any then I'll deal with this...smile.gif
void
QUOTE(Hamad @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 02:21 AM)
Anyone know where I can get Hikari online? And does it have an expiry date? Thanks!

Actually, Tetra GoldMedal Growth Food, Colour Food, Maintenance Food are also not bad... maybe same as Hikari... But becos Hikari is available abundantly here in Spore, that's why most of us use them... Hehehe... just my opinion... yes.gif
Hamad
QUOTE(void @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 08:16 AM)
Actually, Tetra GoldMedal Growth Food, Colour Food, Maintenance Food are also not bad... maybe same as Hikari... But becos Hikari is available abundantly here in Spore, that's why most of us use them... Hehehe... just my opinion...  yes.gif

Hmm...You're probably right. Have you tried them? Or anyone else tried Tetra and saw if it's actually good or not?
void
QUOTE(Hamad @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 04:52 PM)
Hmm...You're probably right. Have you tried them? Or anyone else tried Tetra and saw if it's actually good or not?

Yup.. I'm using tetra goldmedal growth food too... my goldfishes seem to like them and they seem to grow quite fast too... hmmm... is it just a hallucination??!! biggrin.gif hehehe...
Hamad
Then you know what, I might give it a shot and if it doesn't work I'll do the internet order [although I might order the ammonia test now as this is important]. I'll search for good small orandas or crowned pearlscales and will make a tub for them and see if I can have them grow in several months!
void
QUOTE(Hamad @ Fri 30 Jan 2004 07:26 PM)
Then you know what, I might give it a shot and if it doesn't work I'll do the internet order [although I might order the ammonia test now as this is important]. I'll search for good small orandas or crowned pearlscales and will make a tub for them and see if I can have them grow in several months!

okay... just keep us updated... yes.gif
smgutie
i wouldn't buy that book there it is too pricey. and as far as i know it isnt out of print. i think i got mine for super cheap (less than 15 us) including shipping. check the other thread for info.
smgutie
oh i forgot. i feed goldfish connection's progold, spirulina flakes, peas, scrambled eggs, cucumber, lettace, oranges, shrimp, and marinelabs bioblend goldfish food. oh my god i almost forgot. i tried mango the other day and my fish went wild. oh and kiwi too.

they love all of them. the progold and bioblend i always soak. other stuff if it is too big i break up.
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(smgutie @ Sun 01 Feb 2004 07:23 AM)
oh i forgot. i feed goldfish connection's progold, spirulina flakes, peas, scrambled eggs, cucumber, lettace, oranges, shrimp, and marinelabs bioblend goldfish food. oh my god i almost forgot. i tried mango the other day and my fish went wild. oh and kiwi too.

they love all of them. the progold and bioblend i always soak. other stuff if it is too big i break up.

I have not tried feeding them fruits. The weirdest food I've tried is carrot (I figured carotene is good for them) but they simply don't touch it.

May I know if you feed them raw or cooked shrimps?
kingyoo
I feed both raw and cooked shrimp. Raw must be very fresh, like human grade.
Jed Hester
My guys are fed gel food once a day. My recipe includes Gerber's baby food (green peas), crushed pro-gold, seafood flakes. On the weekends, they are fed bloodworms.
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