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The Matrix
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Isn't this show open to Malaysians only ?
Louis
call them lah and find out more tongue.gif
one of the organizer--info@fengshuifish.com peace.gif
fish got nationality meh??? even if it is open to Malaysian only.
If you really want to participate....there always got way mah!!
Malaysia are more kiasu than s'porean laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif ?????
ranchu8
QUOTE(Louis @ Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:59 am)

call them lah and find out more tongue.gif 
one of the organizer--info@fengshuifish.com peace.gif 
fish got nationality meh??? even if it is open to Malaysian only.
If you really want to participate....there always got way mah!!
Malaysia are more kiasu than s'porean laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif ?????
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imo, the way you answer particularly the last line above is totally uncalled for, and especially so when guidance was provided to you in a different thread ... i've telephoned and it is indeed open to Malaysians only ...
CP
QUOTE(ranchu8 @ Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:06 pm)
... i've telephoned and it is indeed open to Malaysians only ...
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That means you are eligible,bro. biggrin.gif
ball
QUOTE(ranchu8 @ Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:06 pm)
imo, the way you answer particularly the last line above is totally uncalled for, and especially so when guidance was provided to you in a different thread ... i've telephoned and it is indeed open to Malaysians only ...
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Cool man, cool man. I can sense Louis was just joking. There are much more things to be angry about in life.
ranchu8
QUOTE(CP @ Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:24 pm)
That means you are eligible,bro. biggrin.gif
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very true smile.gif as a Malaysian I deem it totally called for for me to respond to the post above ... but certainly no intention to enter as i'm residing too far away smile.gif
ranchu8
QUOTE(ball @ Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:36 pm)
Cool man, cool man. I can sense Louis was just joking. There are much more things to be angry about in life.
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yes, stay cool smile.gif there are jokes and there are jokes ... different people may read it differently cos of the way it is written and i deemed it necessary for me to respond
yuanbao
The Competition is getting so closed and I am so excited to see it happen in Malaysia .....I was told its the first goldfish competition ever held in 15 years .... already more than 60 tanks are taken up and they are increasing more tanks....Any Malaysian hobbyist working or living in SG dont forget to come take a look 21st to 23rd April .....
Louis
Yuanboa....did you participate? sending which fish?? can show! show! let us have some sneak preview!! shiok.gif
Ranchu Lover
Those who will be visiting the show, please remember to share some pictures with us.
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 21 Apr 2006 5:53 pm)
Judges : Tung Hoi Aquarium (HK), Vermillion Goldfish Club (SG), Cellini Goldfish Culture Club (KL).

On show will be the Tung Hoi 38cm Black Oranda and a 30cm Ryukin. Make a trip down ...
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Matrix, are you representing Vermillion Goldfish Club as the judge?
The Matrix
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Fri, 21 Apr 2006 7:18 pm)
Matrix, are you representing Vermillion Goldfish Club as the judge?
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Nope. Maybe next time.
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:12 pm)
Nope. Maybe next time.
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Why?
The Matrix
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:22 pm)
Why?
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Har ... Why ?
erh ... dunno how to answer u leh, a lot of private reasons.
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 1:07 am)
Har ... Why ?
erh ... dunno how to answer u leh, a lot of private reasons.
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Can tell who is representing Vermillion?
impellitteri
Guys, Overall the competition was pretty dissapointing. No photography allowed. Fishes were all stressed out mad. Mostly tung hoi specimens, not too bad but for a competition, it could've been better. Even the 38cm black oranda on display is nothing to shout about. Nothing compared to aquarama or any competition in SG beg2.gif . You would wanna see something that makes u go drool.gif in a competition. Anyway, just my opinion.


Cheers
chochiss
Not that bad I reckon. I understand that this competition are targeted more towards beginner to intermediate goldfish owners...perhaps for newbies to get a first hand feel & experience in joining competitions. thinking.gif

Nothing to expect much from especially the title of the competition is "Fancy Goldfish" not "Pedigree Goldfish" mah..........overall I would say not bad for many newbies as their fishes are pretty good in coloration & body growth structure just don't bother about the swimming condition as their are shock with the amount of people looking @ them. yes.gif

Felt good as I get to meet "Jackie from Tung Hoi" yesterday!! shiok.gif
The Matrix
photography is a sensitive topic in a competition. Some can open for anyone to take, some due to sensitive restriction that only the organiser has the exclusive rights. Before bombarding the organisers for not allowing to take photo, do understand their concerns first.

Like we look at babies, they are cute when young. When looking at big fish, we look at beauty, grace and shape. It might be difficult to accept, but dun compare an old man with a young baby.
The Matrix
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 8:53 am)
Can tell who is representing Vermillion?
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Sorry, please write in to the official email.
Ranchu Lover
I think based on what impellitteri said, if we were to make the trip all the way from Singapore to see the show, then it might be a waste of time. However if we are staying in KL, then it might be ok to attend the show as put forward by
chochiss. It all depends on your situation and preference.
desireless
QUOTE(impellitteri @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:18 am)
Guys, Overall the competition was pretty dissapointing. No photography allowed. Fishes were all stressed out mad. Mostly tung hoi specimens, not too bad but for a competition, it could've been better. Even the 38cm black oranda on display is nothing to shout about. Nothing compared to aquarama or any competition in SG beg2.gif . You would wanna see something that makes u go  drool.gif in a competition. Anyway, just my opinion.
Cheers
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Oh no.. What a pity to hear that. ohmy.gif I was hoping someone would be there to take photos of some nice fishes... Roughly how many tanks were there?

So Jackie Chan was there? He used to be more involved with competition in western countries.
The Matrix
60 tanks. Majority Tung Hoi fish.

Only 1 category and all 60 fishes of all varieties fight for 3 prizes, very attractive prizes. In fact, this is the first time a show like this is created. For beginners or not, still very encouraging to see the Malaysia counterparts are taking this hobby seriously.

The Grand Champ is a Tung Hoi special Broad Tail Ryukin and 2nd should be a ranchu.



Chochiss, I dun understand how you define fancy and pedigree ... is there any example ?
chochiss
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:33 pm)
60 tanks. Majority Tung Hoi fish.

Only 1 category and all 60 fishes of all varieties fight for 3 prizes, very attractive prizes. In fact, this is the first time a show like this is created. For beginners or not, still very encouraging to see the Malaysia counterparts are taking this hobby seriously.

The Grand Champ is a Tung Hoi special Broad Tail Ryukin and 2nd should be a ranchu.
Chochiss, I dun understand how you define fancy and pedigree ... is there any example ?
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ok. between fancy & pedigree......over here in malaysia it's pretty clear cut on the fish cos we have:

a) local bred goldfishes i.e from ipoh.....
b) imported goldfishes from china - oso got different types in terms of quality
c) tung hoi goldfishes

you must understand that over here....we can get gfs really cheap but then you'll be surprised to see the goldfish structure itself it's a turn off.

my definition of pedigree means:

- good body structure without any deformity
- well balanced coloration
- good swimming structure
- good health without any physical injuries

if you have seen the contestants over here.......some with teared up fins & massive blood streaks oso not disqualified......so now you get what I mean?

nothing serious but just a wonderful opportunity for new goldfish lovers/hobbyists to participate, experience more, learn & have some fun keeping goldfishes. yes.gif
chochiss
as for the first prized winner.......I'm not really happy with the results cos there are some real truth behind these winning fishes which it's not appropriate for me to mention in public. good_no.gif wleow.gif
The Matrix
QUOTE(chochiss @ Sun, 23 Apr 2006 1:36 pm)
ok. between fancy & pedigree......over here in malaysia it's pretty clear cut on the fish cos we have:

a) local bred goldfishes i.e from ipoh.....
b) imported goldfishes from china - oso got different types in terms of quality
c) tung hoi goldfishes

you must understand that over here....we can get gfs really cheap but then you'll be surprised to see the goldfish structure itself it's a turn off.

my definition of pedigree means:

- good body structure without any deformity
- well balanced coloration
- good swimming structure
- good health without any physical injuries

if you have seen the contestants over here.......some with teared up fins & massive blood streaks oso not disqualified......so now you get what I mean?

nothing serious but just a wonderful opportunity for new goldfish lovers/hobbyists to participate, experience more, learn & have some fun keeping goldfishes.  yes.gif
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All modern goldfish are fanciful goldfish. Pedigree, well, probably you meant by well-groomed and of good quality.

Sometime cannot blame the organiser as well. If so many fishes disqualified, then no fish to show liao lah. But of course, in any competition, it is where individual showing off their fish and learn from each other and that applies to the general public. Dun just look at the value of the fish.

In any show, there are always some objectives to meet. Sometime something is difficult to balance. It will depends on the determination of the organiser to keep to minimal influence. We just have to keep that in mind.
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(impellitteri @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:18 am)
Guys, Overall the competition was pretty dissapointing. No photography allowed. Fishes were all stressed out mad. Mostly tung hoi specimens, not too bad but for a competition, it could've been better. Even the 38cm black oranda on display is nothing to shout about. Nothing compared to aquarama or any competition in SG beg2.gif . You would wanna see something that makes u go  drool.gif in a competition. Anyway, just my opinion.
Cheers
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Would be, by any chance be coming over to Singapore to see our My Fancy Goldfish Competition?
jimmy09chong
When this My Fancy Goldfish Competition be held??



QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Sun, 23 Apr 2006 7:39 pm)
Would be, by any chance be coming over to Singapore to see our My Fancy Goldfish Competition?
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Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(jimmy09chong @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:49 am)
When this My Fancy Goldfish Competition be held??
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MY Fancy Goldfish Competition 2006
我爱金鱼比赛 2006

26th - 28th May
Bukit Timah Plaza, Singapore
impellitteri
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Sun, 23 Apr 2006 8:39 pm)
Would be, by any chance be coming over to Singapore to see our My Fancy Goldfish Competition?
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How i wish i can make it...but too bad due to work restrictions, i don't think i can even make it to the coming aquarama. Haih. work...work...work..
chochiss
yup. work commitments are by far a solid obstacle!

wanted to visit Singapore since last year! perhaps...or maybe I can make it for your MY Fancy Goldfish Competition 2006....hhmmnn...26th - 28th May ya......

when will Aquarama be & where?
impellitteri
QUOTE(chochiss @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 1:35 pm)
Not that bad I reckon. I understand that this competition are targeted more towards beginner to intermediate goldfish owners...perhaps for newbies to get a first hand feel & experience in joining competitions. thinking.gif

Nothing to expect much from especially the title of the competition is "Fancy Goldfish" not "Pedigree Goldfish" mah..........overall I would say not bad for many newbies as their fishes are pretty good in coloration & body growth structure just don't bother about the swimming condition as their are shock with the amount of people looking @ them. yes.gif

Felt good as I get to meet "Jackie from Tung Hoi" yesterday!! shiok.gif
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It is not that bad as this is the first goldie comp in some 15years. But, it is always a good beginning. Gotta start sometime somewhere right. Of course, once experienced, it'll always be better. I was broken hearted to see the red streaks and ragged tails and fins. Poor fishies. Hope there will be more competitions to come with different categories. TV....SV...orandas...ryukins...etc...
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(chochiss @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 3:19 pm)
yup. work commitments are by far a solid obstacle!

wanted to visit Singapore since last year! perhaps...or maybe I can make it for your MY Fancy Goldfish Competition 2006....hhmmnn...26th - 28th May ya......

when will Aquarama be & where?
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Come over and you can join me for Kopi.
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(impellitteri @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 3:29 pm)
It is not that bad as this is the first goldie comp in some 15years. But, it is always a good beginning. Gotta start sometime somewhere right. Of course, once experienced, it'll always be better. I was broken hearted to see the red streaks and ragged tails and fins. Poor fishies. Hope there will be more competitions to come with different categories. TV....SV...orandas...ryukins...etc...
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You can make a difference.
impellitteri
QUOTE(The Matrix @ Sat, 22 Apr 2006 2:47 pm)
photography is a sensitive topic in a competition. Some can open for anyone to take, some due to sensitive restriction that only the organiser has the exclusive rights. Before bombarding the organisers for not allowing to take photo, do understand their concerns first.

Like we look at babies, they are cute when young. When looking at big fish, we look at beauty, grace and shape. It might be difficult to accept, but dun compare an old man with a young baby.
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Agree! but just a little dissapointed for not having any "evidence" on the competition. Can only be a memory in our brain. Anyhow, true enough photography is a sensitive topic. But with proper equipment and organising, It can be certainly done. I.E....barrier shouldn't be too close to tanks with a gap of more than 3m...no flash allowed. or even maybe competition tanks should be in a secluded area/room instead of near entrance of shop with a maximum crowd allowed in the area at one time. Too many ppl walking in and out...popping their heads too close to tanks can seriously stress the poor fishes out.
Louis
Be frankly. bit disappointed with the standard of the fishes. rusure.gif
Just wonder why?? where are the top quality fishes brought in by fengshui fish gone to ah?? Or those top notch goldfish owner reluctant to show their fishes??
Maybe malaysian are more conservative or humble....or less passionate on the aspect of competition..you see..this is still new to us......after 15 years since last show...( i duunoo..u ppl claimed so). good.gif . Hey ppl out there..give us..some time... we will catch up....definitely we will...
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(Louis @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 3:52 pm)
Be frankly. bit disappointed with the standard of the fishes. rusure.gif
Just wonder why?? where are the top quality fishes brought in by fengshui fish gone to ah?? Or those top notch goldfish owner reluctant to show their fishes??
Maybe malaysian are more conservative or humble....or less passionate on the aspect of competition..you see..this is still new to us......after 15 years since last show...( i duunoo..u ppl claimed so).  good.gif . Hey ppl out there..give us..some time... we will catch up....definitely we will...
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Not to worry. Time is on your side. Maybe if it were open to prople from Thailand and Singapore, it might have made a difference.
desireless
QUOTE(Louis @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 3:52 pm)
Be frankly. bit disappointed with the standard of the fishes. rusure.gif
Just wonder why?? where are the top quality fishes brought in by fengshui fish gone to ah?? Or those top notch goldfish owner reluctant to show their fishes??
Maybe malaysian are more conservative or humble....or less passionate on the aspect of competition..you see..this is still new to us......after 15 years since last show...( i duunoo..u ppl claimed so).  good.gif . Hey ppl out there..give us..some time... we will catch up....definitely we will...
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I am sorry to read about the not-so-good response on this competition. I am sure if you feedback to the organizer, the next one would be better organized. Participants should particularly feedback to the organizers on how badly their fishes were tanked.

As for your question on Fengshui fishes, maybe it is because the biggest buyer is one of the judges, making it impossible for him to join as participant. ;) But they did compensate with 2 tunghoi jumbos biggrin.gif They've already made quite an effort to have invited the panel of star judges.
Ranchu Lover
QUOTE(desireless @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 7:08 pm)
I am sorry to read about the not-so-good response on this competition. I am sure if you feedback to the organizer, the next one would be better organized. Participants should particularly feedback to the organizers on how badly their fishes were tanked.

As for your question on Fengshui fishes, maybe it is because the biggest buyer is one of the judges, making it impossible for him to join as participant. ;) But they did compensate with 2 tunghoi jumbos  biggrin.gif They've already made quite an effort to have invited the panel of star judges.
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Competition already over, why cannot share who are the judges?
The Matrix
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 8:23 pm)
Competition already over, why cannot share who are the judges?
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hahahaha .... make any different ?

Mr Jackie Chan, Mr Kew, Mr Toh
chochiss
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 4:35 pm)
Come over and you can join me for Kopi.
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kopi? gathering.gif ok...hehe..well well...my wifey got cousins in SG....they said that Zouk is pretty happening....but the only problem is that my clubbing days are far behind me now. so kopi gathering seems more "on" to me. will keep updated when I'm really coming over...... shiok.gif

besides.....when is the Aquarama 2006??? me lazy lar to look for further details...tired to look at monitor after a banged up day of work!
The Matrix
QUOTE(chochiss @ Tue, 25 Apr 2006 2:17 am)
besides.....when is the Aquarama 2006??? me lazy lar to look for further details...tired to look at monitor after a banged up day of work!
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Aquarama Singapore is alternate odd year. The next one is 2007 at Suntec Convention Hall 6. Coming big event is Aquaria China 2006, which is alternation even year.

Read more at Aquarama & Aquaria.
chochiss
thanx Matrix! very informative. wah.....so late d! must sleep.....going to war tomorrow. eyes oso blurr liao.......
desireless
QUOTE(Ranchu Lover @ Mon, 24 Apr 2006 8:23 pm)
Competition already over, why cannot share who are the judges?
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Huh? Why quote me? It's no secret mah.

Anway, Mr Kew is the owner to many premium Tunghoi goldfishes from Tunghoi imported by Fengshui. It is a pity that because he is the judge, he cannot send his fishes for competition. I guess that answers Louis' question. ;)
jasonq
QUOTE(desireless @ Tue, 25 Apr 2006 5:04 am)
Huh? Why quote me? It's no secret mah.

Anway, Mr Kew is the owner to many premium Tunghoi goldfishes from Tunghoi imported by Fengshui. It is a pity that because he is the judge, he cannot send his fishes for competition. I guess that answers Louis' question.  ;)
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Who is this Mr. Kew? hi.gif
desireless
Hi jasonq, is that a trick question? biggrin.gif
chochiss
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu, 04 May 2006 6:42 pm)
Hi jasonq, is that a trick question? biggrin.gif
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so you know him?
desireless
Personally no.

Get the latest Fishlove mag to read about him and see his collection.
chochiss
you mean the jason guy izzit?
jasonq
QUOTE(chochiss @ Fri, 05 May 2006 4:12 pm)
you mean the jason guy izzit?
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Is he the same guy as the fishlove mag? and same as Jason and Kew? Same person meh?! good.gif
chochiss
all I know from fishlove mag...the featured dude is jason. seen him personally.......seen his fishes too.......
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