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calicoly
hey all, i'm new to this thingy, i live in australia melb. and i collect ranchu's mainly even though it takes forever to find a decent one! and i also like oranda's too! tongue.gif
so yeah just sayin hi hi.gif hi.gif hi.gif
lnicky
Hi Calicoly, welcome to RG

I'm Aussie too and collects ranchus. It's hard to find a decent ranchu here which make you appreciate it more when you see a good one biggrin.gif

There are many bros here who are experienced in keeping ranchus and can impart many wisdom to us newbies
calicoly
hello mate! hi.gif
yeah i know its hard to find a decent ranchu ain't it?
but u know whats worse? the ridiculous prices! rusure.gif
on friday i went to a lfs and saw a ok looking lionhead, but they called it a ranchu, wacko.gif
and it was about 8 to 9 cm's and it was priced at $220 hysterical.gif

which part of australia r u from inicky?
lnicky
One LFS in Sydney sold a high grade ranchu for $600 and when I looked at it it's no better than AA grade. LFS also tend not to stock these high grade ranchus because ppl don't want to spend that kind of money

I feel that to get a good ranchu at a decent price you have to buy from a private owner.

There are a few OZ website that show ads for private sales in Australia. They can save you hundreds of dollars I recently got 2 -15 cm ranchus there for $120 each
calicoly
really? shiok.gif
wow, which one did u get urs from?

i know theree's this guy in sydney in haymarket thta has alot of goldies but i've never gotten any off him... even though he says he can ship them to me, but... u know i want to see and be able to pick what i'm getting yes.gif
lnicky
Yeah I think it's the same person I bought my goldies from. I was lucky because I live only a few blocks from his house so I can choose what I want when he has a new batch. I posted a pic of two red ranchus I bought from him in this forum

Can you get him to send you a few photos that you can choose from?

I also saw an ad in petlink recently about a guy in Melb who is selling his 9 cm black ranchu for $110. Did you check it out?
calicoly
hysterical.gif the guy that advert about the black ranchu was me!
and i ain't a guy hysterical.gif
u lucky duck!
u live only a few blocks from him!!! nicetry2.gif
i never thought to ask him that i'll try
i tried to ask a friend if she wanted to come wif me to sydney to check out his fish and she said HELL NO! not for fish's! hmm.gif



last week i went to a lfs and bought 3 jumbo size short body oranda's well that's what they were called, for $320 and two are dead already and i want back to the lfs and found out that the rest that were for sale had all died too except for one... dont know what was wrong wif them, the guy didn't give me back my money or nothing, so i was quite upset
lnicky
really!!! blush.gif

If you want to come to see the fish you'd better wait for the new batch so the good ones are still there. Let me know if you decide to come to Sydney so I can take you fish shopping
calicoly
shiok.gif definately, as i've never been to sydney at all
my mom's goin to a wedding there in may so hopefully i can tag along and use that as a excuse to get my fish's wink.gif
melb has really crap fish's
what about sydney?? do u guys get much good fish's?
lnicky
QUOTE(calicoly @ Sun, 17 Feb 2008 7:30 pm) *

shiok.gif definately, as i've never been to sydney at all
my mom's goin to a wedding there in may so hopefully i can tag along and use that as a excuse to get my fish's wink.gif
melb has really crap fish's
what about sydney?? do u guys get much good fish's?


We get lots of good ryukins and orandas as they have more demand. an XL A+ or AA probably cost you $80 a piece compared to $150 for ranchus.

There are a couple of good LFS that stock nice goldies. TransAquarium in Canley Vale is a goldfish specialist so they have large stocks of goldfish -ryukins, orandas (they have blue/black orandas), bubble eyes etc.

Lam in Parammatta occasionally has nice ryukins and orandas (I bought the best jumbo veiltail ryukin there).

I just hope that one day someone bring a TVR to OZ. I guess it's a bit hard since Japan is not on the approved list of goldfish exporter in Australia.
calicoly
w do u prefer tvr or svr?
with me i like the side view ranchu's but i normally go for the big wen growth more then anything else, i know that 's not ver professional way to look at it but i find a full wen cute! tongue.gif
oh i saw ur pics of ur ranchu's i love the calico one! good_very.gif good_very.gif
my calico one died a few months ago and i cant find another one to relace it...

i didn't know japan wasnt allowed in?? so the lfs owners that say there fish ranchu is from japan there lying???
lnicky
QUOTE(calicoly @ Sun, 17 Feb 2008 9:22 pm) *

w do u prefer tvr or svr?
with me i like the side view ranchu's but i normally go for the big wen growth more then anything else, i know that 's not ver professional way to look at it but i find a full wen cute! tongue.gif
oh i saw ur pics of ur ranchu's i love the calico one! good_very.gif good_very.gif
my calico one died a few months ago and i cant find another one to relace it...

i didn't know japan wasnt allowed in?? so the lfs owners that say there fish ranchu is from japan there lying???




AQIS Import Condition - C9976 Live freshwater fish may only be imported from approved countries listed below:

Bahrain
Belgium
China
Federated States of Micronesia
Fiji
French Polynesia
Germany
Hong Kong
Indonesia
Kenya
Malaysia
New Caledonia
New Zealand
Philippines
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Seychelles
Singapore
Solomon Islands
South Africa
Sri Lanka
Thailand
United States of America (USA)

so Japan is not on the list so I assumed you can't import from there. I never believed when LFS owner says their fish are from Japan. Most goldies in OZ are from China or Malaysia

I personally like SVR but TVR is in a class of its own and share the same status as koi. TVR are beautiful but you must have pond and you must have hot weather all year round (which means Melb is out of the picture biggrin.gif )

calicoly
four seasons in one day down here! forget it!
how s ur calico?

i wonder what type of fish there is to import from kenya!??? lol
lnicky
QUOTE(calicoly @ Sun, 17 Feb 2008 9:42 pm) *

four seasons in one day down here! forget it!
how s ur calico?

i wonder what type of fish there is to import from kenya!??? lol


My calico died a month ago due to internal bacterial infection. cry.gif

I think Kenya mainly for marine fishes
calicoly
oh i'm very sorry! didn't want to bring up old wounds...
my calico died a few months ago too from this weird disease it had these weird bubble clear lumps all over it, dont know waht it was, i've never seen it in my life!
lnicky
that sounds weird. Maybe you should post a question to the more experienced bros in RG.

Bro goldrush, bekko and desireless are the sifus so they might have some answers
calicoly
yeah i probably will
hmm do u make hamemade gel food for ur fishy?
lnicky
QUOTE(calicoly @ Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:13 pm) *

yeah i probably will
hmm do u make hamemade gel food for ur fishy?

No, scared it will cloudy the water and ppl tend to overfeed with gel food.
calicoly
ohh the way i make it doesnt cloud the water, i notice that my fish's love the veges in it...
i love makin there food....

i'm lookin for someone in melb to go fish hunting with cos i normally go by myself cos none of my friends are too fond of fishys
bekko
I just read the AQIS regulations for importing goldfish into Australia. I will never again say you guys have to pay too much for imported fish. The mark-up would have to be 10 to 20-fold just to cover the cost and hassle of compliance.

I know there is at least one large koi and goldfish farm there. It is in an old wastewater treatment plant near Sydney. A guy that works there used to post under the name of "ranskye" on the Koi Bito forum.

-steve
lnicky
QUOTE(bekko @ Mon, 18 Feb 2008 7:31 pm) *

I just read the AQIS regulations for importing goldfish into Australia. I will never again say you guys have to pay too much for imported fish. The mark-up would have to be 10 to 20-fold just to cover the cost and hassle of compliance.

I know there is at least one large koi and goldfish farm there. It is in an old wastewater treatment plant near Sydney. A guy that works there used to post under the name of "ranskye" on the Koi Bito forum.

-steve


Yeah it makes it impossible for private keepers to import fish directly. Plus the big importers do not like to bring in high quality goldfish since most OZ regards them as cheap fish and don't want to pay good monies. There are only a handful of hobbyists like us in RG who is willing to pay $90-150 for a goldfish

I heard about a koi farm in Sydney but don't know that they breed goldfish. Most locally bred goldfish are feeders or shubukins. I'd better check

Hobbyists in OZ must try to breed their own goldfish to raise the standards.
calicoly
hey inicky u should check it out yes.gif
on the subject of feeder fish i ahte watching them get eaten by big oscars i feel sorry for them ohmy.gif
bekko
But there was one caveat in the regulations that seemed to exempt bringing fish into the country in luggage - unless that is just a different set of regulations.

The early history of the goldfish hobby involved one initial import into a region (via ship, no less) followed by a group of enthusiasts breeding and distributing their own fish. I am sort of sorry that I missed that era. Now, we want mass production and global distribution. But, we may be missing the best part of the hobby. Breeding goldfish is a LOT of fun.

-steve
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