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domho7
I have 2 tanks, 3 & 4 ft.

I bought the Seachem "Ammonia Alert" for each tank.

Noticed that my 3ft tank always at "Alert color" even after I did water change 50% and whack ammo lock into water.
Presently I running 2 cannisters (Both Jebao) on it. I use Eheim sub pro & biohome plus (red colour) and CR.
4ft tank is ok on safe colour.

Can anyone help on ammo stuff. smile.gif
CyberET
ammo lock may turn the ammonia into non toxic form, but it is still registered by ammonia alert. Try doing a 90% change instead..
HappyBuddha
How old is the ammonia alert meter? I can't remember the exact value but it takes a while for the meter to become sensitive and accurate. Also... what's the pH like? The meter is calibrated for pH 7 only.
Seacucumber
dom...
if possible, do away with your canister filter...
goldfish bio load is way too heavy for canister filter which i personally feel....
unless you clean thoroughly every week....

change 80-90% water weekly......not 50%
with this, no need any ammonia lock or fancy stuffs....
just buffer and antichlorine tats it....

i am the "bohiew" "anti test kit" kind of guy....
my 4ft running on a 3 tier overhead filter and 2 sponge filter...
6 pcs of 5 inch fishes inside...
change 90% water every week....
fishes are active, doing well and eating well....
growing fast too....
CyberET
growing fast in what way?
max
QUOTE(g-string @ Sat 27 Mar 2004 01:31 PM)

if possible, do away with your canister filter...
goldfish bio load is way too heavy for canister filter

Hi g-string, like to noe wat kind of filtration system ur currently using?

How do you clear the waste in the tank? thanks.
Seacucumber
QUOTE(CyberET @ Sat 27 Mar 2004 01:52 PM)
growing fast in what way?

erm.....ah.....erm..
it grew about 1 cm in just 2 weeks after transfering to his new 4ft bungalow...
maybe due to space....larger space=faster growth??
Seacucumber
QUOTE(max @ Sat 27 Mar 2004 02:07 PM)
Hi g-string,  like to noe wat kind of filtration system ur currently using?

How do you clear the waste in the tank? thanks.

overhead filter lah....
the stackable type.....
will take a pic when i get my digicam back from my sis....
she just went Japan with it....

btw, i dun do the clearing of waste...
it just get sucked into the filter and broken down by my BB colony.... wink.gif
domho7
Think will visit AC and whack a OHF and do a 80-90% change.
My PH level around 7.4, 4ft tank 7.8!!
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(domho7 @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 12:02 AM)
Think will visit AC and whack a OHF and do a 80-90% change.
My PH level around 7.4, 4ft tank 7.8!!

Save the money and get a good air-pump plus a couple of sponge filter instead.
Seacucumber
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 08:47 AM)
Save the money and get a good air-pump plus a couple of sponge filter instead.

buddha is right....
my filter is damn noisy!
wahahahahaha....
Hazy
From G-string,he change 80-90% of the water weekly.That mean all the B.B will be kill and his tank is forever still cycling,right?
CyberET
y would all the B.B. be killed when he change 80-90% water weekly?
Aren't all tanks forever cycling?

smile.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(Hazy @ Wed 31 Mar 2004 01:04 AM)
From G-string,he change 80-90% of the water weekly.That mean all the B.B will be kill and his tank is forever still cycling,right?

I change 100% once every 2-3 days but my BB are thriving.

BB is everywhere in the tank but most of them are colonizing in the bio-media (sponge, ceramic rings, biohome etc). So when you change water, just make sure you keep the bio media moist.

Very important to take note is to make sure you apply anti-chlorine when adding replacing the water. Chlorine kills BB very quickly.
Jos Nana
QUOTE(Hazy @ Wed 31 Mar 2004 01:04 AM)
From G-string,he change 80-90% of the water weekly.That mean all the B.B will be kill and his tank is forever still cycling,right?

So how much water do you suggest to change to keep BB alive ? What is your current practice ???
jhansolo
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 08:47 AM)
Save the money and get a good air-pump plus a couple of sponge filter instead.

I second that, spectical at first but seems to fit in the fundamentals, tried and it works, the only problem there are floating particals that got me very irriatated, so I turned on my other filters.

Yesterday, tested water and noted a sharp increase in nitrate, but no time to change water now, hope the fish can wait till Sat.

HB the man good_very.gif
Hazy
So that mean changing 100% is safe as long anti-chlorine is added to the new water.so how before will the anti-chlorine take effect?That mean what is the time limit before i turn on the powerhead of my filter?
jhansolo
How big a tank are we talking about here? I leave my water in the jelly can mixed with aquafin for at least 30 mins before I introduce them to the tank, so the tank is without water for about 10 minutes tops.
caster
QUOTE(jhansolo @ Wed 31 Mar 2004 03:47 PM)
How big a tank are we talking about here?  I leave my water in the jelly can mixed with aquafin for at least 30 mins before I introduce them to the tank, so the tank is without water for about 10 minutes tops.

I usually just pump my nutrafin water conditioner into the tank directly and top up tap water... so far so good..... hehehheheh infact for a very very long time liao... never have a single casualty due to water change before.... but then hor... I will observe the fishes careful to make sure everything is ok. good_very.gif ... till now, I swear by nutrafin..... Y618 told me going to be out of stock soon for at least 3mths..... I bot 4 x 2L bottle to keep stock...wahahhahaha blush.gif

I have to change abt 1600 litre of water twice a week.... cannot afford to use jelly can or water storage tank tongue.gif
Hazy
Alot of forums suggest to do a25% the most per week to prevent from killing the B.B and by doing a80-90% change this will alway put stress to the fish,right?
square_guy
QUOTE(Hazy @ Wed 31 Mar 2004 11:09 PM)
Alot of forums suggest to do a25% the most per week to prevent from killing the B.B and by doing a80-90% change this will alway put stress to the fish,right?

alamak, which forum? dun tell me AF hor. goldfish is not arowana laugh.gif

why shd we be concerned abt the BB in the water? majority of BB shd resides in filter media in a cycled system. change water doesn't mean change filter media. good water changing habit harm BB minimally. good water changing habit will also stress goldfish minimally. not changing water massively will stress goldfish optimally.

do u know why we want to change so much water? not for fun one...
Jos Nana
QUOTE(Hazy @ Wed 31 Mar 2004 11:09 PM)
Alot of forums suggest to do a25% the most per week to prevent from killing the B.B and by doing a80-90% change this will alway put stress to the fish,right?

That's the reason why we are not found in "A lot of other forums" !
Hazy
Well, thank for the information.goldfish reallly poo alway. rolleyes.gif
jowy_ham
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Sat 27 Mar 2004 12:53 PM)
How old is the ammonia alert meter?  I can't remember the exact value but it takes a while for the meter to become sensitive and accurate.  Also... what's the pH like?  The meter is calibrated for pH 7 only.

Hi Bro HB, Seachem Ammonia Alert only calibrated for pH7, does that mean that if my pH value is 8 then the Ammonia Alert will not be accurate ?

Please advise, Thanks.
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