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domho7
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caster
QUOTE(domho7 @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 12:14 AM)

either a "Tei3 Bao1 jin1" or a low grade fading black Lionchu...hehhehehheh tongue.gif
desireless
This is not a fading black ranchu. There is a type of ranchu I seldom see in Singapore. Those tri-coloured ranchu with black, red and white.
I see black and orange for your fish... Still I believe it is a very very good catch. Colour also symmetrical.

I will grade it as a potential competition fish good_very.gif

How's the tail view like?
domho7
QUOTE(desireless @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 02:11 AM)
This is not a fading black ranchu. There is a type of ranchu I seldom see in Singapore. Those tri-coloured ranchu with black, red and white.
I see black and orange for your fish... Still I believe it is a very very good catch. Colour also symmetrical.

I will grade it as a potential competition fish  good_very.gif

How's the tail view like?

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How's this angle.
CyberET
tie bao jing
back no good le..
Seacucumber
its a metal wrap gold....alright...

but DOM, theres a kink near the tail seat leh....
avoid fishes like that.... wink.gif
HappyBuddha
Can go find a chinese sinseh and I think can try 铁打 the kink away hor...
Seacucumber
den recover liao , straighten become lionhead.... biggrin.gif
caster
QUOTE(g-string @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 10:29 AM)
den recover liao , straighten become lionhead.... biggrin.gif

rofl.gif wahahhaahhaa that is a good one... rofl.gif
desireless
The kink not so serious lah. Overall very nice.

I think he has a long lost bro...
The moment I see it, it reminds me of this piece I have. At least the head sibeh identical!

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Seacucumber
yours on the skinny side...
try pumping a bit more....
desireless
This piece..... no more liaoz cry.gif
white horse T1
QUOTE(g-string @ Sun 28 Mar 2004 09:04 AM)
its a metal wrap gold....alright...

but DOM, theres a kink near the tail seat leh....
avoid fishes like that....  wink.gif

the kink u guys mentioned, is it like that??

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( fish body \_/ Tail end


Tio Boh?
Seacucumber
ahtan! wat toking you??
desireless
Bro Domho7,

Just found out that this type of ranchu is called "APACHE Ranchu".
The better breed are those with black topping and full black couloured fins. The remaining colour of the body is to be in ORANGE. If the remaining colours are in red and white (The "tri-coloured" I mentioned initially), then most probably they are bred from Hong Kong.

So you have gotten yourself a gem. good_very.gif
Try maintaining the dark black colour as it is the hardest part to maintain
desireless
QUOTE(whtan1 @ Tue 30 Mar 2004 06:48 PM)
the kink u guys mentioned, is it like that??

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(  fish body  \_/ Tail end


Tio Boh?

Ah Tan.. I know what you mean.. but you see beh innovative laugh.gif

This encircled portion in picture below is where they mean the kink is. But IMHO, the kink is not so serious one.

Bro Domho7, the back view I mean is the view with the tail and anal fin facing the camera (your avatar). Actually just wanna know if the anal fin is black and how the tail open up.

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white horse T1
QUOTE(g-string @ Tue 30 Mar 2004 09:44 PM)
ahtan! wat toking you??

wah liao, i tot we have some connection.

still bro desireless with his "clear mind" can see thru my enquiry.

i in cyber cafe so dfficult to illustrate with the same picture so ve to innovate a little bit.
LASERGUY
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu 01 Apr 2004 06:13 AM)
Bro Domho7,

Just found out that this type of ranchu is called "APACHE Ranchu".
The better breed are those with black topping and full black couloured fins. The remaining colour of the body is to be in ORANGE. If the remaining colours are in red and white (The "tri-coloured" I mentioned initially), then most probably they are bred from Hong Kong.

So you have gotten yourself a gem. good_very.gif
Try maintaining the dark black colour as it is the hardest part to maintain

The greatest challenge for keeping this type of fish will be to maintain the combination of colour at the present stage.
Most likely it will either turn to full black or change to full red/orange depending the water condition.
If I am not wrong especially the pH....
high pH ---> Red/orange, low pH ----> Black.
Spotty
Hi guys,

I am new to this forum.

I may have the same fish that you are talking about.

Please share your view (the pic may not be great).

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Spotty
another view

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desireless
Yah it is ABOUT the same type. Except that it is quite a defective apache. sorry.
Anyway, as you can see the black colour quite faded already. That's the problem I was talking about. Very hard to maintain the charcoal black colour.


Bro Domho7 will have a perfect apache ranchu if not for the slight kink.
If no kink, then can ask him to kill it, anti-decompose it and put in National Museum as a Apache Ranchu specimen for all goldfish bro to admire rofl.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu 01 Apr 2004 06:13 AM)
Just found out that this type of ranchu is called "APACHE Ranchu".
The better breed are those with black topping and full black couloured fins. The remaining colour of the body is to be in ORANGE. If the remaining colours are in red and white (The "tri-coloured" I mentioned initially), then most probably they are bred from Hong Kong.

I bet many are wondering why this type of colourationi is known as "apache". It's so ang mo sounding. How did you come about the name? unsure.gif
domho7
QUOTE(desireless @ Thu 01 Apr 2004 06:24 AM)
Ah Tan.. I know what you mean.. but you see beh innovative  laugh.gif

This encircled portion in picture below is where they mean the kink is. But IMHO, the kink is not so serious one.

Bro Domho7, the back view I mean is the view with the tail and anal fin facing the camera (your avatar). Actually just wanna know if the anal fin is black and how the tail open up.

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Tks bro desireless for finding out the engrish name. Apache sounds indianish, no offence to any Indians here. smile.gif

Yes, the anal fin is Black color. smile.gif
desireless
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Fri 02 Apr 2004 10:03 AM)
I bet many are wondering why this type of colourationi is known as "apache".  It's so ang mo sounding.  How did you come about the name?  unsure.gif

The name not I come up one wor. I was at HOR when their last stock came in. There were about 5 of such ranchus. So I pointed to the one Shawn kept in his Show Grade tank and ask him about such ranchu. I have been keeping a lookout for this type since I first saw one in "Fish Love". And he told me it is "Apache". (Should be this spelling lah laugh.gif ) It is the same pronunciation as the helicopter name.

Also cannot find this in the internet. He is expert in Thai ranchu so I give it to him that he is correct lor. He also told me a few tips in choosing such ranchu.

A lot of ppl say he quite tua kang... but talking to him so many times, I think he is very knowledgeable in Thai ranchus and is more than willing to share knowledge. I merely repeat what he told me wor unsure.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(desireless @ Fri 02 Apr 2004 11:22 PM)
The name not I come up one wor. I was at HOR when their last stock came in. There were about 5 of such ranchus. So I pointed to the one Shawn kept in his Show Grade tank and ask him about such ranchu. I have been keeping a lookout for this type since I first saw one in "Fish Love". And he told me it is "Apache". (Should be this spelling lah laugh.gif ) It is the same pronunciation as the helicopter name.

Oh, maybe it's not Apache (like that american helicopter biggrin.gif) but a thai word that sounds like "Apache."

Any thai here can confirm this?

To others, it's a Tie Bao Jing (铁包金)... unless the special pattern with the black strips on top is a special variety. unsure.gif
CyberET
maybe from the red indians, apache, with their black feathers hat, and red sun tanned bodies, does look like tie bao jing biggrin.gif
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