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Forever-mango
I am currently keeping my Super Black Ranchus in greenwater with airpump and tiny filter to get rid of waste. Currently feeding on Hikari Lionhead and Sera Vipan Flakes.

I was wondering, whats the best condition and feeds to keep my Super black ranchus stayed black? The belly is also super black!

Regards
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Kinder
Black colour will easily fade out if kept in poor water conditions. So you have to make sure weekly water changes. in fact if you keep black goldies, they will be the first ones to show signs of poor water conditions....so always keep an eye on them. I m sure if you search this site, you will find a lot of talk on keeping black colour goldfish.

Also reduce your feeding, in hot summer months.

kinder
denny_samjaya
Don't forget.Black must have alot of sun.
Forever-mango
Its already been 1 week since I purchased my black pearlscales, I big improvement with wheatgerm and the sun. The bronzed one already getting darker black on him, photos coming soon.

Thanks guys!
calicoly
hi just curious what do u mean by feeding them wheat germ, is it in pellet form, like in fish food?
Forever-mango
Yes, fish food form ;)
goldfishpassion
Green water is no good for black fish, also Hikari Lionhead.
Since Green water and Hikari lionhead will promote color, which no need for black fish.
Clean water is a way to go for Black fish with lot of sun. For food, i recomment Fresh foods or Saki Hikari Growth.
calicoly
forever mango, can u tell me which fish food has the wheat germ in it? cos i know that the saki hikari growth has it but they dont stock it in australia. i have heard that wheat germ has alot of good properties but have never tried it.
Seacucumber
avoid food that promotes "red" colour enchancment.
btw, it all relies on genes. if your black fish has got good strong traits of a true blackie, it should stay black.
CP
Wah seacucumber, long time no see ..........
Forever-mango
So green water is no good for black fish? Does anyone else agree on this?

Im using Hikari Wheatgerm Mini, might be too big for small fish, but giant ones are ok. The saki hikari isnt allowed for import in Australia for some reason.

But, what fruits would you feed goldfish?
thriviazy
yup i agree.. greenwater will enhance the colour of yr goldfish so if u wanna maintain the black, dun keep it in greenwater
Seacucumber
QUOTE(CP @ Wed, 10 Dec 2008 2:34 pm) *

Wah seacucumber, long time no see ..........



yo bro!! when shall we have kopi again?? happydance1.gif
FChin
does this apply to Black moor too?
clm2206
QUOTE(FChin @ Fri, 12 Dec 2008 9:22 am) *

does this apply to Black moor too?


Hi,

I suppose it must be the same. By the way, I've noticed black fishes will enhance the black either in sunlight or when exposed to plant growth type light combined with any other light. And these combined lights also provide excellent conditions for green algae wall carpet as well. I've combined 19000K and with 4800K T8 fluorescent lamps with very good results.

In my opinion, black color has not much to do with color enhancing food, but with the type of lights the fish is exposed to.

Regards,

Carlos
desireless
QUOTE(thriviazy @ Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:14 am) *

yup i agree.. greenwater will enhance the colour of yr goldfish so if u wanna maintain the black, dun keep it in greenwater

QUOTE(goldfishpassion @ Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:17 pm) *

Green water is no good for black fish, also Hikari Lionhead.
Since Green water and Hikari lionhead will promote color, which no need for black fish.
Clean water is a way to go for Black fish with lot of sun. For food, i recomment Fresh foods or Saki Hikari Growth.


This is not true at all.

We already have more than enough examples here on black goldfishes kept in gw and maintaining their black colour so we have pass the stage to argue on whether it is good or no good to keep black fish in green water.

There is no enough evidence around that the gene of a black goldfish will suddently deteriorate when kept in gw over long period. It is what you feed that may affect the colour of your fishes. Avoid especially food with RED enhancer.

Black moors are raised and kept green water in china farms and they remain black throughout their lives
goldrush
Way back in 2006,I conducted an experiment on black ranchus in green water and had concluded there is no basis to believe that black ranchu will lose its blacks in green

Here is the thread and its detailed explanation and the scientific literature to support my findings


http://www.rafflesgold.com/forums/index.ph...ic=4180&hl=
Forever-mango
Thanks Doc!

So should I turn off the UV and keep with green?

I noticed under green fish get better wens and become more robust, but pond has an algae wall. will this help too? Btw. pond is in full sunlight under 30% shade cloth.
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