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jowy_ham
shiok.gif After absorbing all the advice from fellow forum-ers, I managed to cycle my tub liao ( no dead fishes for abt a week liao, I use guppies to cycle my tank coz they are more hardy tongue.gif )

Time to buy new GFs liao so happy smile.gif.

I understand for newbie, shouldn't get too x one cos it still will die easily if not taken care off properly, so wat will be the price range / size of GFs that I should be looking at ?

I live in the NE, any good place to get some healthy GFs ?

Few Q again :
1. The GH & KH of my water is dropping, what should I do ? I read something on coral chips, any idea where to get that ?

2. I also read something on buffering water ( using baking soda ) any idea on that as well ?

3. I also read something on Activated Carbon to remove the smell from the water, is it true ? coz my wife complaining the water smell ( fishy smell ) although I dont think so

Thanks in advance tongue.gif
LASERGUY
QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Mon 05 Apr 2004 10:49 PM)
shiok.gif After absorbing all the advice from fellow forum-ers, I managed to cycle my tub liao ( no dead fishes for abt a week liao, I use guppies to cycle my tank coz they are more hardy tongue.gif )

Time to buy new GFs liao so happy  smile.gif.

I understand for newbie, shouldn't get too x one cos it still will die easily if not taken care off properly, so wat will be the price range / size of GFs that I should be looking at ?

I live in the NE, any good place to get some healthy GFs ?

Few Q again :
1. The GH & KH of my water is dropping, what should I do ? I read something on coral chips, any idea where to get that ?

2. I also read something on buffering water ( using baking soda ) any idea on that as well ?

3. I also read something on Activated Carbon to remove the smell from the water, is it true ? coz my wife complaining the water smell ( fishy smell ) although I dont think so

Thanks in advance    tongue.gif

What makes you conclude that your tank is cycled and matured already ? Taken any reading on Ammonia/nitrite level ? No dead fish for a week doesn't indicate that it's matured ! Did you read up anythng on this topic ?

Guppy's bioload is definitely much much lower than GFs, in this case, your tank is basically not tuned to the eventual bioload, not to mention cycled or matured. In normal case, it takes minimum of at least a month or even more to cycle a goldfish tank.

Please consider to find out more on this topic (there are plenty of the website on this topic,) before proceeding with the next step.

Just my 2 cents worth of advice.... wink.gif have fun....
East_Ozeki
QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Mon 05 Apr 2004 10:49 PM)
shiok.gif After absorbing all the advice from fellow forum-ers, I managed to cycle my tub liao ( no dead fishes for abt a week liao, I use guppies to cycle my tank coz they are more hardy tongue.gif )

Time to buy new GFs liao so happy  smile.gif.

I understand for newbie, shouldn't get too x one cos it still will die easily if not taken care off properly, so wat will be the price range / size of GFs that I should be looking at ?

I live in the NE, any good place to get some healthy GFs ?

Few Q again :
1. The GH & KH of my water is dropping, what should I do ? I read something on coral chips, any idea where to get that ?

2. I also read something on buffering water ( using baking soda ) any idea on that as well ?

3. I also read something on Activated Carbon to remove the smell from the water, is it true ? coz my wife complaining the water smell ( fishy smell ) although I dont think so

Thanks in advance    tongue.gif

1. ph and kh dropping may be due to nitrifying activities. coral chips can be bought at C328 for $2 a pack that can last you a long time for a 3 feet tank.

2. If you have coral chips, you will not need baking soda.

3. Carbon can absorb the smell if that is what's bothering your mrs. But using chemi pure would do the trick too.

As laser mentioned earlier, it helps to read up a bit more on tank cycling and water chemistry.

:cheers1
jowy_ham
Hi Bro East_Ozeki, Thanks for the kind advise.

QUOTE(LASERGUY @ Mon 05 Apr 2004 11:36 PM)
What makes you conclude that your tank is cycled and matured already ? Taken any reading on Ammonia/nitrite level ? No dead fish for a week doesn't indicate that it's matured ! Did you read up anythng on this topic ?

Guppy's bioload is definitely much much lower than GFs, in this case, your tank is basically not tuned to the eventual bioload, not to mention cycled or matured. In normal case, it takes minimum of at least a month or even more to cycle a goldfish tank.

Please consider to find out more on this topic (there are plenty of the website on this topic,) before proceeding with the next step.

Just my 2 cents worth of advice....  have fun....


wao lau, Bro LASERGUY, u sounds fierce and un-frenly, hope i didn't cause u too much trouble.

Anyway I have taken some water readings of my tub ( pH at 7.6 - 8 ), Ammonia level is 0, Nitrite level is also 0, Nitrate level is at 10.

Then U tell me how to know when the tub is properly cycled lah, I newbie mah, dun expect too high lah, even i read all the posting here I may also have problems understanding mah.

Hello, give me a chance lah. tongue.gif

U really sounds un-frenly sad.gif
Seacucumber
QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Tue 06 Apr 2004 12:40 AM)
Hi Bro East_Ozeki, Thanks for the kind advise.



wao lau, Bro LASERGUY, u sounds fierce and un-frenly, hope i didn't cause u too much trouble.

Anyway I have taken some water readings of my tub ( pH at 7.6 - 8 ), Ammonia level is 0, Nitrite level is also 0, Nitrate level is at 10.

Then U tell me how to know when the tub is properly cycled lah, I newbie mah, dun expect too high lah, even i read all the posting here I may also have problems understanding mah.

Hello, give me a chance lah. tongue.gif

U really sounds un-frenly sad.gif

ham,
laser is not fierce lah.....its just the time of the month biggrin.gif

actually all the questions you had posted can be found by just doing a simple search on this forum....

btw, if your water is cycled, there shouldn't be any sort of umpleasant smell coming from your tank/tub. try to avoid using chemical filtration such as carbon, zeolites etc....as you wouldn't know when they will lose their effectiveness....

increase your filter media so that u can cultivate more BB.....
and also, do not overstock....
if you overstock, water quality will deteriorate and fish cant develope well too....
jowy_ham
QUOTE(gstring @ Tue 06 Apr 2004 08:20 AM)
laser is not fierce lah.....its just the time of the month


Oic, laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(gstring @ Tue 06 Apr 2004 08:20 AM)
increase your filter media so that u can cultivate more BB.....
and also, do not overstock....
if you overstock, water quality will deteriorate and fish cant develope well too....


I have 1 mechanical filter, 1 guppy sponge filter and 1 air stone ( hidden behind my soya bean griller ) -> refer to attached pic ( sorry, dun have digicam to take pic ) to cultivate BB, enough ??? need to add BIOHOME ?

I'm just planning for 2 GFs in my tub ( 2ft x 2ft x 8inch )

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mountain
gravel?????

most of us don't practise gravel, because most of us find gravel harder to managed for goldfish. and if not managed properly, it can become a hotbed for disease. but then again, with only 2 goldfish and 2 other filters, you might just have the right balance. try, no try no harm no learn. i just to have so much dead goldfish rolleyes.gif
HappyBuddha
What's a soya bean griller? unsure.gif
jhansolo
I think it is a water feature with a soya bean grinder.
jhansolo
QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Mon 05 Apr 2004 10:49 PM)
shiok.gif I live in the NE, any good place to get some healthy GFs ?
    tongue.gif

You can check the FAQ forum for the address and map.

simon road and ang mo kio are all pretty near to you right.

Cheers
domho7
IMHO I dont think Lazerguy is fierce, I have seen him personally & also have taken a lift from him before and also he responds to PM very promptly. smile.gif

My personal experience with uncycled tank water was terrible, many of the goldies fell ill within few days.
LASERGUY
QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Tue 06 Apr 2004 12:40 AM)
Hi Bro East_Ozeki, Thanks for the kind advise.



wao lau, Bro LASERGUY, u sounds fierce and un-frenly, hope i didn't cause u too much trouble.

Anyway I have taken some water readings of my tub ( pH at 7.6 - 8 ), Ammonia level is 0, Nitrite level is also 0, Nitrate level is at 10.

Then U tell me how to know when the tub is properly cycled lah, I newbie mah, dun expect too high lah, even i read all the posting here I may also have problems understanding mah.

Hello, give me a chance lah. tongue.gif

U really sounds un-frenly sad.gif

Wah lau, I sound fierce meh ? Wait till you receive postings from Jos Nana or Hun citizen....

Apologise if there is any discomfort lah, kissme.gif hug.gif as what g-string has mentioned, just do a search here or elsewhere, you should able to find most of the information needed.

For a newbie, my personal thinking will be find out more before you start, it's okay to fail initially, but most important is what you have gained from the experiences and don't commit the same mistake again.

It's simply no use to let others spoon feed you all the way with every details/information, should put in effort to verify what is right and what is wrong.

Sorry if I sound harsh again.... salute.gif

Perhaps I should stop posting in this topic to avoid any more misunderstanding....
jowy_ham
QUOTE(. @ .)
Perhaps I should stop posting in this topic to avoid any more misunderstanding....


Hi Bro LASERGUY, don't leh, with your latest posting, sounds more frenly liao tongue.gif

Dunno lah, if you stop posting on this topic then I cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

I tried / did tried searching for "cycle" using the above "Find" function but came out alot of un-related stuff.

I also read somewhere that when a tub/tank is cycled, the ammonia & nitrite level should be at 0 level which is what my tub is reading but of coz I understand that the guppies bio-load is much lower than GFs, therefore in that case, should I be buying some cheap cheap GFs to continue to cycle my tub for another month before buying my actual favourites ( Ranchu / Lionhead ) ?

As for the rest of the forum-ers, please kindly advise on what to search for using the "Find" function so that newbies like me can catch up fast, not too depending on U guys to spoon-feed. beg2.gif beg2.gif beg2.gif

Please advise.
BlueBubble
QUOTE(jowy_ham @ Tue 06 Apr 2004 02:12 PM)
As for the rest of the forum-ers, please kindly advise on what to search for using the "Find" function so that newbies like me can catch up fast, not too depending on U guys to spoon-feed.  beg2.gif  beg2.gif  beg2.gif

Please advise.

How about try "ammonia", "nitrite" or "nitrate"?
max
Other than advise, maybe should give free set-up service as well.

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jowy_ham
smile.gif I just bought 2 ranchus/lionchus from C328 on Fri, and have since QT them in my small plastic tank ( 15litre of water with methl....-blue solution ). The GFs are abt 2in each ( pay $10 for each ).

I did a salt dip on them today, after abt 2mins, they almost peng-sun then i quickly put them back to normal water and they are swimming happily liao.

Thinking of moving them to my tub by the end of this week. Hope they kuai kuai, can survive tongue.gif

1 thing I noticed abt them in my small plastic tank is that the ammonia level shoots up quite fast ( from 0 to 1mg within half a day ) and I have to change water for them twice a day ( once in the morning when i wake up - 10+am, and once at nite at around 10+pm )

I guess when I eventually move them to my tub, the ammonia level will still shoot up ( but maybe not as fast becos of the amount of water - 60litres and tub have BB liao )

Therefore I need some advice on how to proceed from here.

My reading & understanding of some of the past threads on this topic, I'm still suppose to monitor the water parameters closely and change water when ammonia, nitrite, nitrate level are high ?

Anything else that I have missed out and should have take note ?

BTW I've gotten coral chips for my tub liao & feeding for my GFs is about 10-20 hikari pellets 2-3 times per day.
jowy_ham
QUOTE(jhansolo @ Tue 06 Apr 2004 11:45 AM)
I think it is a water feature with a soya bean grinder.

This is my soya bean grinder tongue.gif

but dunno Y the top part dun move liao, wife says if still can't fix it then have to sell it away sad.gif ( bought for $138 )

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