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ladida
Hi all,

I plan to visit chatuchak in Bangkok and hope to bring back some nice ranchus back to singapore. Is it possible to hand carrry these on board the plane? And will I need to get some export documentation prepared and if so, would the shops in chatuchak be able to help?
Seacucumber
you have to do the documentation yourself....
no one in Chatuchak will help u....
jowy_ham
I think there is already a topic on this issue before, try searching for Bangkok or Airport for more info tongue.gif
Allan
An alternative is to have it forwarded by professional forwarder.

http://www.natsuinter.com/

I heard they take care of everything except packing the fish which you should leave to the seller.
leogon
Hi, am new to this forum but I have had some experience bringing goldfish back from BKK. Previously all I had to do was to arrange for my fish to be packed in a styrofoam box on day of departure and just check it in. Invariably the person at the customs where you have your bags X-rayed will ask you what's in there and normally I just tell them the truth and they will want to know which airline you are going on. If it is SIA or TG, usually no problem. Nowadays, there seem to be too many people doing that so occasionally it gets sticky and so most breeders will help you get a health certificate just before check-in. But I think they will only do that for you if you buy in significant quantities or depending on your relationship with them. If, however, you are very unlucky and meet a nasty officer at the customs, then there is a possibility they will just refuse to allow it thru. Handcarrying is not advised as many have had their fish confiscated.
Allan
I understand that last month the Thai custom imposed a new regulation where you have to fill up a form (at a place not exactly near the departure hall) that is written in Thai language to declare your live stock. So it's not like it used to be where you could just check-in the package. I'm sure the airline staffs will advise you accordingly on how to do get clearance but make sure you arrive at check-in well ahead of time!
leogon
Hi again,
Apparently the Thai customs have had a ruling that livestock must be declared at check-in for the last 2 years or so. But this is not always adhered to by the officials at the customs.
I would seriously suggest that you get the breeder/farm where you get your fish from to help you with the necessary paperwork BEFORE you get to the airport - things may not function so efficiently there especially if you speak no Thai!
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(leogon @ Mon 03 May 2004 12:21 PM)
I would seriously suggest that you get the breeder/farm where you get your fish from to help you with the necessary paperwork BEFORE you get to the airport - things may not function so efficiently there especially if you speak no Thai!

And I would like to highlight an implication, which is you should avoid buying fishes at the Chatuchak market for the make-shift sellers there will not be able to help you with declaring custom!
dennis
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Mon 03 May 2004 01:23 PM)
And I would like to highlight an implication, which is you should avoid buying fishes at the Chatuchak market for the make-shift sellers there will not be able to help you with declaring custom!

Wah, I sian half already. Still though I could grab a couple of cheap ones when I am there later this month sad.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(dennis @ Mon 03 May 2004 04:52 PM)
Wah, I sian half already. Still though I could grab a couple of cheap ones when I am there later this month sad.gif

Ha ha. Sorry I have to disappoint you but I think you're glad you found out about it now then later.

Not all is lost though; you can always pick up accessories/medications in chatuchak that are not available or more expensive locally. Unfortunately off hand I can't think of anything seriously useful except for that special fishing net Caster was raving about in another thread, and a certain banned medicated food. sad.gif Oh... there's also that ranchu magazine in thai language that he gotten for free you might want to pick up as souvenir.
nismoman77
QUOTE(ladida @ Fri 30 Apr 2004 11:28 PM)
Hi all,

I plan to visit chatuchak in Bangkok and hope to bring back some nice ranchus back to singapore.  Is it possible to hand carrry these on board the plane?  And will I need to get some export documentation prepared and if so, would the shops in chatuchak be able to help?

U need to do paperworks at the Air cargo area at(area 5 n 6),3rd floor,Live animals quarantine room,fill in the form,then get the permit to export the fish(can be fined up to 40,000baht for not having permit).. Photocopy ur Passport n air ticket,there is a copier machine downstairs.. U DUN HAVE TO BRING THE FISHES THERE,ITS ONLY PAPER WORK,just declare how many fishes u planning to take.. THE DEPT is not open on SAT n Sun..

On the day of departure must put the fishes into "STYROFORM BOX"(price is 150 baht per kg),check-in with your lagguages,dun tink can hand carry on plane...

Collection the airport!!

Styroform box is a MUST!!

Hope its clear enuff!!
white horse T1
QUOTE(nismoman77 @ Mon 03 May 2004 09:35 PM)
U need to do paperworks at the Air cargo area at(area 5 n 6),3rd floor,Live animals quarantine room,fill in the form,then get the permit to export the fish(can be fined up to 40,000baht for not having permit).. Photocopy ur Passport n air ticket,there is a copier machine downstairs.. U DUN HAVE TO BRING THE FISHES THERE,ITS ONLY PAPER WORK,just declare how many fishes u planning to take.. THE DEPT is not open on SAT n Sun..

On the day of departure must put the fishes into "STYROFORM BOX"(price is 150 baht per kg),check-in with your lagguages,dun tink can hand carry on plane...

Collection the airport!!

Styroform box is a MUST!!

Hope its clear enuff!!

u defintely sound like someone who have done it before.
nismoman77
QUOTE(white horse T1 @ Mon 03 May 2004 10:10 PM)
u defintely sound like someone who have done it before.

Just went thru it 2 days ago..
Allan
QUOTE(nismoman77 @ Mon 03 May 2004 09:35 PM)
U need to do paperworks at the Air cargo area at(area 5 n 6),3rd floor,Live animals quarantine room,fill in the form,then get the permit to export the fish(can be fined up to 40,000baht for not having permit).. Photocopy ur Passport n air ticket,there is a copier machine downstairs.. U DUN HAVE TO BRING THE FISHES THERE,ITS ONLY PAPER WORK,just declare how many fishes u planning to take.. THE DEPT is not open on SAT n Sun..

On the day of departure must put the fishes into "STYROFORM BOX"(price is 150 baht per kg),check-in with your lagguages,dun tink can hand carry on plane...

Collection the airport!!

Styroform box is a MUST!!

Hope its clear enuff!!

Hello nismoman77

I've only been to Bangkok once and I'm not familiar with the layout of the airport but I recall although they have two teminals, unlike changi airport, they are actually in the same building. Please tell me is the "air cargo area at (area 5 n 6), 3rd floor, Live animals quarantine room" is in which terminal? Thanx.
white horse T1
QUOTE(Allan @ Tue 04 May 2004 08:21 AM)
Hello nismoman77

I've only been to Bangkok once and I'm not familiar with the layout of the airport but I recall although they have two teminals, unlike changi airport, they are actually in the same building.  Please tell me is the "air cargo area at (area 5 n 6), 3rd floor, Live animals quarantine room" is in which terminal? Thanx.

allan

it is neither.

Located at airport cargo terminal 2.
dennis
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Mon 03 May 2004 05:23 PM)
Ha ha.  Sorry I have to disappoint you but I think you're glad you found out about it now then later.

Yah, you're right about that too. blush.gif
jhansolo
you can buy the white basin the ones that they use for competition.
nismoman77
QUOTE(Allan @ Tue 04 May 2004 08:21 AM)
Hello nismoman77

I've only been to Bangkok once and I'm not familiar with the layout of the airport but I recall although they have two teminals, unlike changi airport, they are actually in the same building.  Please tell me is the "air cargo area at (area 5 n 6), 3rd floor, Live animals quarantine room" is in which terminal? Thanx.

Whitehorse have answered u.. At terminal 1 after u chop ur passport,u go downstairs, u should see a "ROOM" that shows live animals,plants quarentine,something like dat go inside n they will tell u where it is in detail..
nismoman77
QUOTE(dennis @ Mon 03 May 2004 04:52 PM)
Wah, I sian half already. Still though I could grab a couple of cheap ones when I am there later this month sad.gif

Y sian?? When i reach,i ask i oso sian,but once u see fishes for the price thats nice n well price its worth the trouble..

My advise is if u r bent on getting fishes,after u land go to T2 cargo terminal by taxi to do the documents 1st,its at area5-6 go 3rd floor..

In that way u dun have to come back airport just to do the paperwork if your hotel is far..

Rem closed on sat n sun..
dennis
QUOTE(nismoman77 @ Tue 04 May 2004 08:48 PM)
Y sian?? When i reach,i ask i oso sian,but once u see fishes for the price thats nice n well price its worth the trouble..

I think I will most probably use this trip for recce first. Look see look see happydance1.gif happydance1.gif happydance1.gif Maybe get some other stuff like the white basin jhansolo mention or take a look at the other stuff like what HB said shiok.gif
HappyBuddha
QUOTE(nismoman77 @ Tue 04 May 2004 08:41 PM)
Whitehorse have answered u.. At terminal 1 after u chop ur passport,u go downstairs, u should see a "ROOM" that shows live animals,plants quarentine,something like dat go inside n they will tell u where it is in detail..


To be frank I was excited when I read your first posts. I had the impression the place to get the documentation done is in the same building as the check-in counter and just a floor above. Simple enough.... but it seems that's not the case - that "room" is merely for you to FIND OUT exactly where the real office is. tongue.gif

QUOTE(nismoman77 @ Tue 04 May 2004 08:48 PM)
My advise is if u r bent on getting fishes,after u land go to T2 cargo terminal by taxi to do the documents 1st,its at area5-6 go 3rd floor..

In that way u dun have to come back airport just to do the paperwork if your hotel is far..

Rem closed on sat n sun..


Now that's a good idea.... more so when the Cargo Terminal 2 is really quite a distance away that you need to take a cab to reach comfortably.

I attached the best map of bangkok airport I could find. The yellow zone is where you land and depart. the red zone is where you want to go and get the documentation done - the cargo terminal no. 2.

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In between is the domestic flight terminal and another cargo termina (no. 1). So the distance between this two buildings is no walking distance especially if you have children with you.
Seacucumber
wah lan...trust me.....
save the trouble and buy from our local LFS....

the Thai airport vincinity is not as organized as our Changi AIrport....
nismoman77
Depend on the attitude of individual fish keepers,real enthusist will go thru it,if just keeping for fun forget it..

Gd fish never or Seldom hit our shores for the simple fact that our Indo neighbours pay much more for the fishes cos the mkt the demand is stronger..

Local LFS i tink cant make it type..Thais for Japs,Grade B sold for As,blah blah blah.. .. ..
ladida
QUOTE(nismoman77 @ Mon 03 May 2004 09:35 PM)


On the day of departure must put the fishes into "STYROFORM BOX"(price is 150 baht per kg),check-in with your lagguages,dun tink can hand carry on plane...

Collection the airport!!

Styroform box is a MUST!!

Hope its clear enuff!!

HI NISMOMAN77,

Can you enlighten me on which airline you took as I called SQ and they told me that hand carry and check-in baggage is a no-no for fish.

Another thing: I presume that the shop that sold you the fish actually helped you with the packing? If not, where did you source for the styrofoam?

Thanks a million!
nismoman77
QUOTE(ladida @ Thu 06 May 2004 12:24 AM)
HI NISMOMAN77,

Can you enlighten me on which airline you took as I called SQ and they told me that hand carry and check-in baggage is a no-no for fish.

Another thing: I presume that the shop that sold you the fish actually helped you with the packing? If not, where did you source for the styrofoam?

Thanks a million!

Took TG(Thai) didnt hand carry on plane,leave in the plane's storage area..The LFS packed for me. good_very.gif
Grossmann
Hi Bro, just wanna check which LFS you went thru?? Will go there recce the place on July...

Thanks!!

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dennis
I remember that I saw a map of chatuchak market somewhere but I cannot find it now. Does anyone has it, can you post it. I would like the know where is the area where they sell aquarium fishes and stuff.

Also any recommendation of good place to eat in BKK would also be appreciated, I am poping by Bangkok this weekend for a short recce smile.gif
HappyBuddha
Here's the map done by bro newie sometime ago....

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dennis
QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Wed 19 May 2004 12:13 PM)
Here's the map done by bro newie sometime ago....

Towkay, you're a life saver beg2.gif Thanks.
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