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my one and only chinese oranda.
bought at 5 inch(inclusive of tail) about 2 months back and now has grown to 7 inches.....

as i am a newbie in oranda, kindly give comments so i can improve in future selections.

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Frankie
tail not wide and broad
wen and cheeks not defined
Frankie
Erh ... body way out of shape. Features do not suggest a chinese fish.
Overall a poor specimen.
Frankie
overall, i think it's nice... but from the pictures above, the 2nd pic (left side) looks nicer... the first pic (right side) shows the peduncle abit too long... must be a female oranda... btw, is the tail end bent?
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Sat 05 Jun 2004 10:37 AM)
tail not wide and broad
wen and cheeks not defined

kindly enlighten on "defined wen and cheeks".

also, how wide and broad should a tail of a good oranda be??
GA Secretary
QUOTE(Frankie @ Sat 05 Jun 2004 12:54 PM)
Erh ... body way out of shape. Features do not suggest a chinese fish.
Overall a poor specimen.

hmm....out of shape in wat ways?? please shed a light on this.

what do you think the country of origin is if its not a chinese??
and also, pls enlighten on chinese fish features.

thanks
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QUOTE(Frankie @ Sat 05 Jun 2004 09:07 PM)
overall, i think it's nice... but from the pictures above, the 2nd pic (left side) looks nicer... the first pic (right side) shows the peduncle abit too long... must be a female oranda... btw, is the tail end bent?

the first pic, the tail is sawing to the fish's left. tats why the penduncle appear to be long.
Frankie
QUOTE(Secretary @ Mon 07 Jun 2004 07:45 PM)
kindly enlighten on "defined wen and cheeks".

also, how wide and broad should a tail of a good oranda be??

the wen needs to be a nice defined headgrowth on the top, the picture looks like a messy patch

as for the tail, preferably if the angle it opens is as wide as possible.. this specimen angle is too acute

tail looks abit thin and flimsy

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Frankie
May be you will want to re-take the picture, cause the fish looks better on this picture....

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picture re-takened using better lighting and macro mode.
tat day i forgot to use macro.....

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Frankie
Sorry... I dunno much about Oranda.

Maybe can study the Aquarama 2002's Oranda category winners or the following at QianHu goldfish Competition.

http://www.rafflesgold.com/forums/index.ph...findpost&p=4532

http://www.rafflesgold.com/forums/index.ph...findpost&p=4539

Anyway, I just wanna say the last pic is very well taken! good.gif
Frankie
from the latest sets of photos, i tot the headgrowth is nice... beautiful fish... except for the slight tail end bent... btw, it would be better if the back was more humpy...
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hmm....share the same thought too....
if the back is higher and tail is longer and broader, it would be just nice....hehehehe smile.gif
HappyBuddha
The attached pictorial guide is based on Bristol Aquarists' Society's "The Standard" of Oranda.

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Frankie
This oranda is very nice, nice head/wen for an oranda looks almost like a ranchu/lionhead/oranda all in one (talking about the head). Very cool good find. Standards are different every where for every species of goldfish and fish in general. This hobby is based on personal opinions, and prefrences. It's hard to say that there is a standard because not everyone agrees on the same thing. But I personally think that it's hard to judge any goldfish because there are so many good ones out there besides it's only easy to judge a goldfish when you are comparing a certain number of them. For example, at goldfish shows if there are 8 orandas in one category then you just compare the 8 of them and pick the best of the 8 as 1st place so makes juding easier when you have other goldies to compare with. So if 6 orandas look average and 2 are highend quality then judging is different from all 8 being high quality rather show quality.
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