Ryukins (Includes Selection Tips!) Options

[Seacucumber]

just bought these 2 fellow.....
pls comment....
just shoot! i need to learn more about ryukins...thanks!

[Seacucumber]

in my new 4ft tank

[eroken]

very nice where u bought & how $thks

[void]

just bought these 2 fellow.....
pls comment....
just shoot! i need to learn more about ryukins...thanks!

from the picture, the first fish has unique color... but the anal fin section is not smooth... the peduncle is abit too long too...

from the picture, the second fish has nicer hump and fins... except the tail which is not so nice... closed tail... too small...

hehehe... no offence ah...

[Seacucumber]

hmm....at least i know what to look for in my next purchase...

[HappyBuddha]

Maybe becoz of the short-tails Ryukin's unique body structure, there is a tendency for the tail end to be un-balanced. If you look very carefully at many LFS, a lot of ST Ryukin of this size has anal fins that is slanted to one side, some to the extend the anal fins will stick out from beneath the tails. When you see such a Ryukin, look even more closely and you'll find the whole backend is slanted. It's as if one side of the fish grew faster than the other side. I suspect the red Ryukin, judging from the folding tails, is one such Ryukin?

Sorry I can't explain any better.

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hmm... maybe bro caster can give some comments... i think his ryukins are awesome...

[caster]

hmm... maybe bro caster can give some comments... i think his ryukins are awesome... 

I am no expert, but I will give it a try

For me Ryukin's body shape & Tail is primarily. For the first fish, the color looks like bronze, and the color confirm will fade to a pale yellow. The hump looks not so pronounce, when look at the hump, one should look at it from side first than the front. The hump on the back should be as high as possible and the head must look as if it was punch into the body , and when looking from the front, the hump must be thick and broad, preferable bigger than width of the head.

The head is nice not too big or too small, the mouth looks like facing down which is very good for ryukin.

The body shape is a good, but not ideal, this is normally the shape I go for when buying from LFS because those fishes are underfed. Feed for a week or 2 , the belly should grow bigger and round... hopefully stretch a liitle bit more towards the anal fin side. I have experience that fishes are ideal in shape when I bot them but after a week or 2 of pumping, the body goes out of shape .

For a short tail ryukin, the tail is too big and the biggest issue is that the tail does not open. The ryukin tail must be open when stationary and when it swim, the tail must not fold badly and looks unbalance

Most ryukin have detach anal fins, such that there is a gap between the tail and the anal fin, and that is no good. Your first fish have very nice anal fin.

On of the very important thing about ryukin is the dorsal fin must be standing up and open at all times, whether it is stationary, or swimming (due to water resistance, the fin might just collaspse just a very little bit)

For second fish, everything is nice except the tail and the belly. The folded tail is a major defect. and the belly shape is not as good as the black.

heheheh.... Just my personal preference and guideline for choosing ryukins ...

cheers

[void]

I am no expert, but I will give it a try

For me Ryukin's body ...

thanks for the tips... i'm a short tail ryukin fanatics... this helps me alot in selections... hopefully, once i get a dicam, you can comment on my ryukins...

btw, should the tail of the ryukin covers the anal fins?

[caster]

thanks for the tips... i'm a short tail ryukin fanatics... this helps me alot in selections... hopefully, once i get a dicam, you can comment on my ryukins... 

btw, should the tail of the ryukin covers the anal fins?

Brudder don;t say until like I am an expert, I am still learning lah, from many ryukin sifu that I know.

For me, as long as the tail can cover half of the anal fin, it is good enough... very difficult to find a short tail ryukin with hidden anal fin.

[Seacucumber]

wah! so may things to note ah!
hmm......thanks everyone for their precious comments..
will try to look for the ultimate ryukin from now on....
and will not buy on impulse....hahahaha....

in fact, poor me....i buy the 1st fish becos of the colour....
and i buy the 2nd fish becos of the hump....

but hor, are the 2 fishes above so jialat that its not worth keeping??
wat are your opinions??
maybe i steam them tonight?? or maybe some sashimi??
hehehehe....

[HappyBuddha]

wah! so may things to note ah!
hmm......thanks everyone for their precious comments..
will try to look for the ultimate ryukin from now on....
and will not buy on impulse....hahahaha....

in fact, poor me....i buy the 1st fish becos of the colour....
and i buy the 2nd fish becos of the hump....

but hor, are the 2 fishes above so jialat that its not worth keeping??
wat are your opinions??
maybe i steam them tonight?? or maybe some sashimi??
hehehehe....

Oei, nobody say they are bad lah.

In fact the brown Ryukin is quite rare and unique. I'm actually hoping you can keep it long enough to see if the colour will change or fade.

I'd proudly keep them in my tank.

Free I take, but you must give me the tank also lah.

You can keep that filter.

[Seacucumber]

no lah....in fact i am very happy that you guys are helpful enough to show me wat are the criterias in choosing a good ryukin...

its a billion times better than those people who will just give comments like...
"WAH SWEE AH!"
dun wana say where....

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but hor, are the 2 fishes above so jialat that its not worth keeping??
wat are your opinions??
maybe i steam them tonight?? or maybe some sashimi??
hehehehe....

are they both males / females or a pair? why not try to breed them if they are indeed a pair... who knows you will find your ultimate ryukins in their offsprings...

dun steam or sashimi... deep fried better...

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Quotes from a magazine....

DORSAL FIN = Dorsal fin

LEKUK PUNGGUNG = Arch of Hump

TITIK PANGKAL = Base points

SUDUT EKOR = Angle of tail

ANAL FIN TERTUTUP = Closed anal fin

LEKUK PERUT = Arch of Belly

1. Head
A good head must point straight to the front and it should be a triangle shaped when viewed from the top. The size of the head must not be too big.

2. Hump
Good ryukins must have high hump. The starting point of the hump and the ending point of the hump should look like a arch of a bow. They should starts and ends at the same horizontal level. This to ensure the ryukin swims in a balance manner. If one of the points is either too low or too high, the ryukin will swim either head down or up.

3. Belly
The arch of the belly should also looks like the arch of a bow. If viewed overall, the body should looks like circle. Belly which is too big will cause the ryukin not to swim normally.

4. Tail fin
The caudal fin should create a wide angle between the top fin and below fin. When viewed from top or side, the tail fins should not be closed. The wide angle of tail not only affects the swimming posture of the ryukin, but it also act as a cover for the anal fin (I guess for long tail ryukin).

5. Dorsal fin
It must erect straight everytime.