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i was reading a thread on sump tank vs IOF tank.
is sump tank ideal for goldfish? maintenance seem simpler and filtration change and medication could be added quite simply with sump tank, any one has one and can share some experience on sump tank? |
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Here are my two cents worth.
I don't own a sump tank but I think I know how it works. Actually, if you understand how bio filtration works, all filteration system is the same (except for perhaps the FSB filter and the tricker tower). Water gets pumped, sucked, dropped into mechanical filtration first. Then it goes through ceramic/sinter glass media for bio filtration. After that stage, filtered water comes back out by force (IOS, sump and canister) or gravity (OHF). In between there's some sort of fine wools/sponge to trap and "polish" the water. To me a sump is like an IOS placed underneath the tank. A OHF is a IOS placed above. A canister is roughly like a sealed IOS. I don't like OHF becoz it's unsighty. Most OHF also does not allow me to install a rain bar to aerate and reduce water current. A canister is great but frequently disposal of trapped poos is a hassle. IOS is nice but takes up swimming space especially for a small tank. I don't and probably won't go for a sump because I don't like to squat! ![]() With modern sinter glass, do we really need that much space a sump tank has to house filtration media anymore? |
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slump tank main purpose is easy to maintain and clean ..
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QUOTE(mountain @ Sat 06 Mar 2004 04:53 PM) slump tank main purpose is easy to maintain and clean .. i call one tank maker to my hse from the tanksetup thread to assess to see if mine can be converted to sump. IOS to clamp now to do maintenance and with increasing shit load, the BB may not cope with the water "purification" process. Afternote: he came and proposed to me how i could beautify my existing tank cabinet. i just wonder how much would it be???? This post has been edited by whtan1: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 8:27 pm |
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If your BB cannot cope, there is 2 reason .. u doing it wrong, or your Bio-load is too high..
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QUOTE(whtan1 @ Sat 06 Mar 2004 03:10 PM) i was reading a thread on sump tank vs IOF tank. is sump tank ideal for goldfish? maintenance seem simpler and filtration change and medication could be added quite simply with sump tank, any one has one and can share some experience on sump tank? I have a sump tank for my rykins.... IMO, very very good for fish with lots of shits..kekkekekkekkee water always very clear, can put in tons of CR, sponge and wool... when dirty can see easily and wash. Cycle tanks very fast. Can keep more fishes per sqft of water. Good for fishes that can take higher water level.... for ranchu, I have yet to find one that are 1ft height .. unless I customise of course.. |
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I must be missing something or my IOS is different from the norm? I find cleaning the wet compartment relatively easy. Just remove the sponge, take the net basket of media out, rinse rinse, done.
One thing I do notice about other's IOS. They use wools. Now... wool ain't tight fitting especially since they tend to shrink after one wash. My sponge I cut them to fit perfectly and large particles cannot leak through. My bio media is thus relatively free of particles. |
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QUOTE(whtan1 @ Sat 06 Mar 2004 06:26 PM) Afternote: he came and proposed to me how i could beautify my existing tank cabinet. i just wonder how much would it be???? Show us the tank and cabinet. Maybe we can give you some ideas how to beautify it. You didn't mention if they can modify your existing bare tank to allow overflowing. Are they able to do that for you? |
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my tank
can't modify existing baretank. the tank has some inherent problem which i notice. while the water is clean, i can't seem to clear he by products. bro happybudda, could u take a full picture of yr tank and the media basket u mentioned? i m curious how it look like there are one schematic and one actual. i know it is not ideal for goldfish setup.... This post has been edited by whtan1: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 10:20 am |
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QUOTE(whtan1 @ Sun 07 Mar 2004 10:13 AM) my tank can't modify existing baretank. the tank has some inherent problem which i notice. while the water is clean, i can't seem to clear he by products. bro happybudda, could u take a full picture of yr tank and the media basket u mentioned? i m curious how it look like there are one schematic and one actual. i know it is not ideal for goldfish setup.... Sure, I'd be glad to. Closeup shot of the IOS chamber:- ![]() The media:- ![]() ![]() |
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HB,.... where u buy that metal container huh ??
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QUOTE(caster @ Mon 08 Mar 2004 09:43 AM) HB,.... where u buy that metal container huh ?? Cool hor. Long story short. Allan paid $10 for it at Simon Road. My daughter-in-law gave it to me for free. She shops at IKEA kitchen utility section (some months ago) for less than $5! ![]() |
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QUOTE(HappyBuddha @ Mon 08 Mar 2004 10:46 AM) Cool hor. Long story short. Allan paid $10 for it at Simon Road. My daughter-in-law gave it to me for free. She shops at IKEA kitchen utility section (some months ago) for less than $5! ![]() wah... ikea....hehhehhe...here I come ![]() |
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please tell me u squeeze a sponge filter inside
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