Nitrite Problem Options

[square_guy]

After moving all the fishes into a tub filled with old tank water, I squeeze and rinse the sponge filter inside the to-be-cleaned tank.  Then I move the now relatively clean sponge into the temporary tub with the fishes.  Proceed to change water, all 100% of it.  After filling up the tank and conditioned the water, then I reinstall the sponge back into the tank.  The method works well except my sponge a bit... out-of-shape leow. 

ahhh, so your sponge goes where your fishes go hur... thanks

[mountain]

KNS (sorrie).. 3 fat GnG duds.. yet my ammonia is close to 0!!
of caz no BB like tat lei..

[HappyBuddha]

KNS (sorrie)..  3 fat GnG duds.. yet my ammonia is close to 0!!
of caz no BB like tat lei..

Hello!?

No ammonia is the best man. I mean... erm... why do you want ammonia?

Okay... it seems a little strange that ammonia is zero for clear water but hey, if the test kit is accurate, woo hoo... you way understocked your tank.

Can have sex leow!

[mountain]

Boss.. not tat i like to complain abt ammonia .. but tat single dumbo stupo crapo sponge stubbornly refused to reduce the nitrite. with 0 ammonia cannot start BB mah.. dun tell me i wrong if not tonite u buy wan bao u see headline... mountain tried to drown himself in 2ft tank.

but understock my tank.. maybe can buy a new lionhead

[CyberET]

har? so now its 0 ammonia, and 0 nitrite? impossible le.. u got feed or not? never feed also got ammonia neh..

[square_guy]

haven't fully cycled lah. enough bb to consume ammonia to nitrite, but the colony of bb to convert nitrite to nitrate not large enough yet for current load.

[mountain]

har? so now its 0 ammonia, and 0 nitrite? impossible le.. u got feed or not? never feed also got ammonia neh..

ohh no !! i have been forgetting to feed my fish!! :mata

ammonia is also released from their gills

no lah .. the nitrite level still rising. guess its really hard to mature my sponge.

[CyberET]

dunno.. confused liaoz

[square_guy]

ammonia is also released from their gills

hey, first time i hearing this. reliable bo?

[mountain]

i think its thru respiratory reaction .. or is it i confused with something else.. haha.. read too much ..

[square_guy]

i think its thru respiratory reaction .. or is it i confused with something else.. haha..  read too much ..

no no no, this is interesting. does anyone else ever come across this?

[mountain]

i quote this from a website

What we often forget or may even be unaware of is that the gills perform another function necessary for the health of fish. This function is excretion, the process of eliminating the break-down products of protein digestion, mostly in the form of nitrogen compounds. The most important of these waste products takes the form of ammonia, a toxic substance to fish even at very low concentrations. In other animals, it is the kidneys that excrete nitrogenous wastes, in the form of urine

this is the link from a yahoooo search

Fish Reference From Animal Networks

[square_guy]

excellent article! dunno abt the rest of u but i learn a lot frm this article

Cortisol is the other hormone released by the adrenal tissue in response to stress. Studies on various fish indicate that cortisol levels increase rapidly and dramatically when fish are crowded together or handled. Cortisol, like epinephrine, can also produce many physiological changes. If prolonged, these changes can lead to metabolic imbalances, such as increases in protein breakdown and elevated thyroid hormones, which can further increase the demands on the body, leading to biochemical exhaustion.

anyone saw this? remember one of the discussion abt fish releasing hormones to suppress immune system of surrounding fishes? this seems to be a more plausible explanation.

[HappyBuddha]

anyone saw this? remember one of the discussion abt fish releasing hormones to suppress immune system of surrounding fishes? this seems to be a more plausible explanation.

I did, but I didn't co-related it with the crowded tank hormone thing thoery. Thanks for pointing it out. To me, it once again shows frequent massive water change is important even if your test kit results are favourable as there are more things in the water then just ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.