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kingyoo
post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:19 am
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I've been reading some interesting things from a book on goldfish written in the UK in the 1940's.

It mentions something about some breeds where the scales are so thin that the fish looks "scaleless". Of course they are not actualy scaleless, but you can see some of the organs through the skin especially the gills. The cheeks of the goldfish are pink. They called this a crystal goldfish which was very rare and highly desirable.

Hmm.... I have a calico that I can see through it's scales and see it's gills and some of it's belly. I wonder if it is "highly desirable"? I never knew that a fish with "see through" scales would be attractive in that way. What do you think?

I wonder if back then this was something very extraordinary.
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post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:30 am
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 10:19 AM)
Hmm.... I have a calico that I can see through it's scales and see it's gills and some of it's belly.  I wonder if it is "highly desirable"? I never knew that a fish with "see through" scales would be  attractive in that way.  What do you think?

Wow, that's cool. I've not seen a calico with a iMac kind of body. biggrin.gif I've seen gill plates but not inside the tummy of a calico.

Would it be difficult to snap a pic to show us? I'm curious to know how it looks like.

Does the colour of the tummy changes depending on what kind of food the fish has just eaten?
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post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:37 am
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it's a form of calico, nacreous body. Pinkish throughout. Not easy to find anymore. But the chinese working on the Sakura pattern.
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post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:46 am
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Hmm... I could try to take a picture, but she is in a pond and hard to catch. She is still only about 3 inches long. She is a Bristol Blue Shubunkin. Maybe when I finish my outside pond in the spring I will take a picture of her when I move the fish to outdoors. (green water time) wink.gif

Can you wait a couple of months... that way she will be bigger and easier to see her stomach. (I think it's her stomach)

So do you think the name "Crystal Goldfish" kind of fell out of the goldfish vocabulary over the past years? I have never heard of it before.
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post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:52 am
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 10:46 AM)
Hmm... I could try to take a picture, but she is in a pond and hard to catch.  She is still only about 3 inches long.  She is a Bristol Blue Shubunkin.  Maybe when I finish my outside pond in the spring I will take a picture of her when I move the fish to outdoors. (green water time) wink.gif

Can you wait a couple of months... that way she will be bigger and easier to see her stomach.  (I think it's her stomach)

So do you think the name "Crystal Goldfish" kind of fell out of the goldfish vocabulary over the past years?  I have never heard of it before.

i will wait to see photo !!! some more it's a bistrol shunbunkin. Some specimens dropped out mainly due to demand. just like pom pom, celestial ... these are totally ignored by many keepers.

winter time coming, you still keeping yr fish in pond ?
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post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:59 am
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Up here in Seattle, our winter is mild and hardly ever goes below freezing. I let my outside common goldfish hybernate in the pond. If I lived in really cold area, I would not do that.

My bristols are in an indoor pond. Can you see them in this picture. Just kidding.IPB Image
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 10:59 AM)
Up here in Seattle, our winter is mild and hardly ever goes below freezing.  I let my outside common goldfish hybernate in the pond. If I lived in really cold area, I would not do that.

My bristols are in an indoor pond.  Can you see them in this picture. Just kidding.

hehe.. cool.. is that a room or the main living room? good.gif
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He he he, it is supposed to be the main living room. But I have too many fish, so I removed all the furniture except one chair and made it my fish room. I also grow the live daphnia in that room too.
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 12:05 PM)
He he he, it is supposed to be the main living room.  But I have too many fish, so I removed all the furniture except one chair and made it my fish room.  I also grow the live daphnia in that room too.

cool, personal supply of daphnia, i had to drive to pick up daphnia everyday when my fishes spawned
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wah lau ehhh... (my goodness!) biggrin.gif

u really fanatical abt goldfish beg2.gif

i see that u have some water hyacinth in your pond. do they required lotsa light? tat area looks bright. MH?
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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Tue 02 Dec 2003 12:05 PM)
He he he, it is supposed to be the main living room.  But I have too many fish, so I removed all the furniture except one chair and made it my fish room.  I also grow the live daphnia in that room too.

You go girl!

When I read your personal profile in ezboad, I couldn't quite comprehen why you said your hubby is very understanding and wonderful.

Now with the pic of your living room (for fish!), I know how marvelously wonderful he is!

Hey, you have a very exotic oriental place... and not one but two magnifying glasses as well. biggrin.gif

We'll all wait for spring to see your crystal goldfish!
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post Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:49 pm
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Square guy- yes, hyacinths need lots of light and warmth. I no longer have those as it is winter. I had to remove them because they were rotting and making my water dirty. I will buy more next spring. They are cheap plants and grow very fast. There is lots of light becase of the large window next to the pond.


Happybuddah- Hard to see, under the fry tank stand there is another magnifying glass. LOL It is one that fits on my head like a visor so I am hands free for inspecting my fry. Good tool for culling.

Yes, our home is very Asian as both my husband and I have lot's of Asian cultural heritage.

Can you see my lucky 3 legged frog and lucky jade plant? That magazine on the stool is a "How to build a Pond" magazine. biggrin.gif
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nice room !!

is this what you referring to ?Nacreous moor
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nice room !!



Thanks!!!



Nice fish. Why do you call it a moor?

Anyway, I am not sure if that is what the book is describing. The book is very old and doesn't have photos.

But my bristol does look like that but of course with calico color.


So now do we not feel that a fish with this type of coloration is exciting? Is it ordinary? Or is it a rarity?

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QUOTE(kingyoo @ Wed 03 Dec 2003 03:22 AM)


Thanks!!! 



Nice fish.  Why do you call it a moor?

Anyway, I am not sure if that is what the book is describing.  The book is very old and doesn't have photos.

But my bristol does look like that but of course with calico color.


So now do we not feel that a fish with this type of coloration is exciting?  Is it ordinary?  Or is it a rarity?

it is a moor. erh ... how to explain har ... the bulging eyes.

yup, indeed quite unique. i used to have one long time ago with some black patches but ....... cry.gif

which uk book is that ? got any isbn number ? i can dig the national library for some reference.
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